## What is the Barclaycard Arrival card’s rebate really worth?

Barclaycard Arrival Plus® World Elite Mastercard® has an unusual rewards scheme.  All purchases earn 2 points per dollar.  If you redeem those points for cash, all you get is half a cent per point.  In that case, this card is nothing but a 1% cash back card.  When you redeem points for travel, though, things get interesting.  When redeemed for travel, points are worth a penny each, plus you get a 10% rebate on all points used.  Because of that rebate, many people (including me) have suggested that this card earns 2.2% back towards travel.  Of course, when you redeem the 10% rebated points, those points earn a 10% rebate as well, so some say the card earns 2.22%.  Others take it further and will put a bar over the second number in “2.2%” in order to indicate that the 2 repeats forever (the only thing stopping me from doing so is my lack of knowledge of how to do that within my blog authoring tool!).  Anyway, for the rest of this post let’s use the simpler 2.2% to represent the conventional wisdom of the value of this card’s travel rebate.  Is that number correct?  One can logically argue that the real rebate is higher.  And, at the same time, one can argue that the real rebate is lower.  Let’s look at each argument…

### More that 2.2%

Bill, at MileValue, recently wrote that Barclaycard Arrival World Mastercard points were worth 1.14 cents each.  If he’s right, then that would mean that purchases made with the Barclaycard card earn 2.28% towards travel.  How could this be?

Bill points out that the way travel redemptions work is as follows: you pay for travel with your Barclaycard and then you apply your points as a statement credit towards those travel purchases.  Because the awards work this way, you earn points for the same travel that you’ve redeemed points for.  Let’s make up an example:

Suppose you have 35,000 points and you want to get a \$350 hotel stay for free.  You would simply pay for your hotel stay with your Arrival card, and then log into your account to redeem 35,000 points for that purchase.  Now, two things happen: 1) You earn your 10% rebate on points used = 3,500 points; and 2) You earn points for the \$350 purchase just as you would any other time: \$350 x 2 points per dollar = 700 points.  So, after your “free” \$350 hotel stay, you will have earned back 4,250 points.  In other words, your net loss of points is only 30,750 points.  And, since you got \$350 worth of travel from those points, we can calculate the value per point: \$350 / 30,750 = 1.14 cents per point.

My take: I agree with Bill that it is theoretically possible to get 1.14 cents per point in travel value from your Barclaycard points.  However, this same logic can be applied to any card that offers rewards in the form of statement credits.  With all such rewards, you earn points and redeem rewards at the same time and so the effective value of your reward is arguably higher.  In fact, one could take the same logic and say that a hundred dollar bill is worth more than \$100:

1. Buy something with your rewards credit card (let’s say you have a 2% cash back card).
4. Notice that you get back 2 dollars from your credit card!

So, in the example I just gave, my \$100 bill is actually worth \$102!  But since, by the same logic, \$2 is worth more than \$2, the total value of my \$100 bill is approximately \$102.04.

While I agree with Bill’s overall analysis, I think Bill would agree that it would be ludicrous to say that \$100 is worth \$102.04.  So, I’d rather think of the way Barclaycards’ rewards work as a virtue: it’s a good thing that you can earn rewards for travel redemptions.  With some other programs such as Citi’s ThankYou points, you use points directly to pay for travel and so you lose out on the opportunity to earn credit card rewards from those purchases.  Let’s agree to keep in mind that difference between programs, but not overcomplicate things by overstating or understating the point values.

### Less than 2.2%

Recently, a reader named Max wrote the following comment in one of my posts:

I used Barclaycard’s Arrival redemption process recently, and can share a few annoying features. First, redemptions for any individual travel expense must be in increments of \$25. So in most cases, there can be no redemption in full. Second, unredeemed parts (even when over \$25) can not be submitted again. And finally, the 10% travel bonus miles are awarded after a redemption.

So the net result of the above, there will always be unredeemed expenses and leftover miles. The promised 110% travel redemption value is not really possible.

Max is right.  Because Barclaycard doesn’t allow redemptions of less than \$25, and because the 10% rebate occurs after your redemption, you will always have extra points in your account (assuming you only redeem points for travel).  Let’s take an example.  Suppose you start with 40,000 points and you redeem all of those points at once for \$400 towards travel.  You would then get back 10%, or 4000 points.  This will always happen with travel redemptions and it is therefore impossible to use up all of your points.  And, as long as some number of points go unused forever and ever, those leftover points are worth nothing to you.  So, Max is right: it is impossible to get exactly 1.11…% value from each point (notwithstanding Bill’s opposite argument covered above).

That being said, the more points you earn and redeem, the closer you will get to earning the ideal value from your points.  Eventually, having an unusable balance of less than 2,500 points will be no more than a rounding error.  Let’s assume for example, that you use all 40,000 points from your signup bonus for travel redemptions.  You would get back 4000 points (10%).  Now, let’s say that you use 2500 of those points for a travel redemption.  You would get back 250 points which would increase your remaining balance to 1750.  Those points can’t be redeemed until you reach \$25 worth of points, so we’ll say that you have 1750 orphaned points.  In total, you would have received \$425 value from 40,000 points.  That’s a per point value of 1.06 cents each.

Now, let’s scale up the example to 400,000 points.  At that level, if you redeem all at once for travel, you will get back 40,000 points, and the rest of the math will work the same as above.  In other words, you would end up with 1750 orphaned points.  In this case, you will have received \$4,425 value for 400,000 points.  That’s a per point value of 1.1 cents per point.

Yes, you can logically and convincingly argue that Arrival points are worth more or less than their apparent value of 1.1 cents each towards travel.  In the end, though, the difference from 1.1 cents per point is small.  Bill, at MileValue, argued for 1.14 cents per point.  And, when you orphan 1750 points from a starting balance of 40,000 points (as in my example above) you may end up with 1.06 cents value per point.  In each case, the difference from the conventional wisdom is extremely small.  So, I’m happy to stick with the conventional wisdom: in my mind, Arrival points are worth 1.1 cents each, and because the Arrival card earns 2 points per dollar on all purchases, it earns 2.2% towards travel.  Good enough.

For reference, Barclaycard defines travel purchases as: “Airlines, Travel Agencies & Tour Operators, Hotels, Motels & Resorts, Cruise Lines, Passenger Railways and Car Rental Agencies.”

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32 Comments on "What is the Barclaycard Arrival card’s rebate really worth?"

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They don’t have to be in increments of \$25. I just redeemed 5800 points for a \$57.95 travel charge. They do round up to the dollar, but I’m not going to fuss over 5¢.

Guest

Exactly. If you have even dollar amounts you lose nothing. Less than that and you lose a little. But if you’ve consistently got travel charges on your bill, the surest way to get your full value is to just get credits in \$25 chunks.

I like this system a lot better than Capital One where you had to have enough miles to cover the whole travel charge before you could redeem. (Unless you played games claiming airline charges were for 8 tickets and you wanted reimbursement for 5, etc).

Guest

Also everyone misses the recurring value. It’s not a one time rebate of 10%. So if you redeem 40k you get 4k back, then redeem 4k you get 400 back etc. But that makes the value theoretically 2.2222 recurring. of course we all know mv only even talks about it is to try make more money so disappointed to see you humor that

Guest

I firmly disagree. There are many bloggers I can barely stand to read anymore because the content is such a regurgitation of the same information designed to push credit card links and no unique content, but MV is decidedly not one of them.

MV posts many great award booking tips including free one ways, sweet spots on award charts, and how-to’s. I think Scott at Milevalue is as creative in his niche as Greg/Frequent Miler is in his.

Guest

Max’s analysis makes two incorrect assumptions. First, there’s a 2,500 point minimum, but after that, there’s no incremental minimum. Second, he assumes that the residual has no value. That would be like saying with a 2% cash-back card that buying four \$25 items has a zero return because the \$2 rebate can’t buy another \$25 item.

Guest

JEM: Partial redemptions really must be in 2500 pts increments — it was not an assumption, but my actual redemption experience. Of course the residuals have value. I called dealing with them to be a nuisance, but some of its value can indeed be extracted.

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SaveMeSF
This is a great card! Other benefits of the statement credit system (vs having to book through the CC issuer’s proprietary travel agent) are (1) you can book directly with hotel chains to ensure you receive receive SPG etc. points, (2) you can earn portal points when booking travel, (3) you can redeem points for Southwest, Hotwire, and Priceline. The only negative I have noticed is, according to the “Guide to Benefits” I received with the card, it does not have “purchase protection”, i.e., protection for lost or damaged items that are charged to the card. Does anybody else see… Read more »
Guest

Trying to figure out the redemption…..If I purchase 10k on my Arrival card, I will earn (2X per dollar paid) 20k Arrival points which can be redeemed for \$200 worth of travel plus 10% rebate. Is this correct? If not, please tell me how much i can redeem on travel if I purchase 10k on the arrival card?

Guest
Hi FM, This is a great, detailed analysis and I actually noticed this point before. I am thinking of a strategy how to maximize the points before I close the card (to avoid annual fee). I have two Arrival Cards (wife and me). I plan to cancel my wife’s card before anual fee hit in July ’14. After redeeming her points for travel, she has 13,318 points left while my card has 55,000+ points unused. Let me say, she spends \$130 on hotel and redeems 13,000 points, she will have 318+13000*10%+130*2 = 1878 pts left that can’t be used. So,… Read more »
Guest

I think that the easiest solution to your dilemma is to call and see if your wife can downgrade to the no annual fee version of the card. I think she’ll have the same redemption options and still earn 2x on travel and dining, but should use other cards for other purposes.

Guest
1) I’m inclined to agree with Bill as long as you keep the card open and have regular travel purchases over \$25 (award taxes for example). 2) \$100=\$102.04 (or put another way, \$100 = \$100merchandise/gift card + \$2.04), but only under those circumstances (i.e. only when used by an award’s credit card that triggers the cash back or extra value on that \$100 that replaces the \$100 of credit you used to earn the \$2.04). ∴ it holds that statement credit method reimbursement will always trigger the same ‘extra worth’ because the mechanism is always the same 3) If you’re… Read more »
Guest
Thanks for the analysis. Since so much of my spend is travel, dining and, umm, office supply stores (e.g. amazon gift cards from staples), the chase ink/sapphire pref are my main 1/2. That said: I like the idea of having a straight cash back card for non-bonus category spend, but I was waffling about keeping the Arrival after the annual fee kicks in because of the spend I’d have to hit just to recoup the annual fee. However, now that there’s the RewardsBoost shopping portal, it can really change the math of how much to have to spend. For instance,… Read more »
Guest

After the deval on United & Hyatt, UR points are LESS valuable proposition to me. Going forward, it is MOST likely that MORE devaluation will be on the horizon. Not a matter of “if”, but “when”

The 2.2%ish return on Barclay spend is a better candidate for long term, as banks RARELY deval their own “miles/points” so they are in line with inflation of the dollar, which is hell of a lot better than hotel/airline devaluations.

I’m kicking the sapphire preferred to the curb when the annual fee comes up.

Guest
The most succinct way I can state our position is that the points you redeem are worth 1.14 cents. It is important to consider the points you don’t redeem and subtract value accordingly. I’d say the minimum value anyone will get for their \$1,000 minimum spending is \$450. (You get 42k Arrival miles for bonus plus \$1k spending, you redeem for \$400, you get 4k back, you now have 6k, and you do a \$50 partial redemption.) \$450 value on 42k miles is 1.07 cent per mile. That’s the minimum, 1.14 is the maximum. I hope to get closer to… Read more »
Guest

man, this seems like splitting hair to me.. 2.2% is a good enough number for me, it may not be exact but it will do. Adding that 0.08% even on annual spend like 50k, is only \$40.

Guest

and I strongly think other bloggers now will copy this article just because they want to talk about the arrival card. Of course, FM is not in the same boat so this is the blog I usually read.

Guest

“While I agree with Bill’s overall analysis, I think Bill would agree that it would be ludicrous to say that \$100 is worth \$102.04. ”

Yeah, the way to deal with this is the way I’ve usually seen it in valuations: you decrease the value for the points you are giving up by redeeming. If I book a NY->LA flight on an airline for 25K it’s really costing me 31K because I’d earn 6K if I had to buy it. Ditto for hotel rooms, using points to purchase through your card’s agent, etc.

Guest
If you spend \$100 on this card, you don’t actually get \$2 of cash back. You get \$2 of credit the next time you spend \$2 on qualified travel purchases. So total purchases are \$102, which cost you \$100 of actual cash. This is a discount of 1-100/102 or 1.96%, not 2%. If it were actually \$2 of cash back then you wouldn’t have to come up with \$2 of travel purchases to realize the credits. In that case, you would have cash outflows of \$98 to get \$100 of value. Only in that case would it be a true… Read more »
Guest

Sorry, but you are just wrong. When you spend that \$2 on travel, you also get \$0.04 in rebates for that. Or think of it this way: Spend \$98 on non-travel, \$2 on travel, and you get \$2 in credit that would cover your travel.

Guest
i don’t think Bill’s analysis is convincing. When you use Barclay Arrival to pay for a stay in order to redeem points for 2.22..% cash back, although you would also earn cash back for that stay, it does not make sense to add that cash back to the original cash back you used to pay at the first place and then calculate the final total cash back rate. From the moment you pay with your points, you forgo the opportunity to use other credit cards to earn cash back. Therefore, the transaction should be deemed as a new transaction and… Read more »

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JustSaying

To me the real value here is that we are having this discussion……I think the cold headaches this community passes on to each other is just invigorating……..so is \$2640 for hotels in penny points from a year of manufactured spend more valuable than a First Class ticket? Would be nice to have free stays at Relais and Chateau………..

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Guest
Since most of the spending on my Arrival card is MS, I prefer to think of it as a discount rather than calculating the value of a point. 98.75 fees for 25 VRs nets 25,200 points. These are redeemed for \$250 worth of travel leaving me with 2700 points and another \$25 off of another charge. 64.090909% discount, and I can stack cashback discounts or portal miles on top of this, as well as the points earned on the travel itself. This works out far better for me than any other (non-ultra-luxury) hotel points such as 10K UR > Hyatt… Read more »

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Guest

The Arrival card sure gets a lot of ink. But the priceline regular card with no annual fee pays 2% toward any charges on your monthly statement. No (1% bonus back) but no annual fee either. Also a Barclays card. Not to mention William Shatner on the card.

Guest

I don’t think the Priceline 2X card is available to new applicants anymore.

[…] You do need to redeem points for travel to get the most out of them.  If you redeem for cash or other prizes your points will be worth only about half a cent each.  At that rate, you’d be much better off with a no fee 1.5% cash back card.  When points are redeemed for travel, though, points are worth 1.1 cents each, thanks to the 10% rebate.  That means that this card earns approximately 2.2% back, towards travel, for all spend (see “What is the Barclay Arrival card’s rebate really worth?”).   […]

Guest
This is a great analysis, but its missing one last thing that will put an end to all discussions because this is what we really need to know: I’m about to close my barclay arrival+ account,and I want to leave closest to the minimum points on the table (minimum possible when closing the account). In order to do so, the last transaction needs to be at least and closest to \$25 and I need to have exactly 2500 points for the last transaction. Can you develop the formulae to calculate the last redemptions before closing the card? The variables include… Read more »

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