How to feed the hungry and fly for free (take two)

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UPDATE 2/9/2015: This deal is dead. Please see details here: The 1800Flowers deal is dead.

Note: I had published a very similar post in November last year (found here), but that promotion ended prematurely.  Fortunately, an even better promotion is now available…

Southwest Airlines has, in my opinion, the single best deal in the travel industry: earn 110,000 points in one calendar year and they’ll give you a Companion Pass good for the rest of that year and all of the next year.

One way to earn Southwest points quickly is through 1-800-Flowers.  1-800-Flowers is currently offering a promotion in which they’ll award 1750 Southwest Rapid Rewards points for each purchase of $29.99 or more with promo code RR36.  Offer details can be found hereThis offer expires February 14th 2015.

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In addition to flowers, 1-800-Flowers offers various types of gift baskets. Some baskets contain food, such as fruits and nuts.  It so happens that these are exactly the types of foods that are in high demand by charitable organizations that feed the hungry.  Towards this end, I’ve been working  with a great local charity: Food Gatherers.  Together, we’ve selected baskets that are a good fit for feeding the hungry, and have developed a process that can be used to donate food.

In this post, I’ll show how you can use the 1-800-Flowers deal to earn 110,000 points and a Companion Pass and help feed the hungry through Food Gatherers.  Of course, you can donate to any cause you’d like, but the instructions below are specific to Food Gatherers.

Background details

  • 1-800-Flowers is running a promotion in which they are offering 1750 Southwest Rapid Rewards points for each purchase of $29.99 or more.  You must use code RR36 and enter your Southwest Rapid Rewards number at checkout to qualify.
  • If you plan to earn miles by shopping at 1-800-Flowers I highly recommend signing up for their Passport program (found here).  For $29.99, you’ll get free shipping for a year.  You can stack deals by going through a portal to purchase this, and you can pay for Passport with a gift card.
  • With free shipping (thanks to Passport) and a $30 1-800-Flowers order, using code RR36, you will earn 58.33 points per dollar (1750 points / $30).
  • The Southwest Companion Pass requires earning 110,000 points within one calendar year.  Once achieved, the companion pass is good for unlimited flights booked with points or cash for the rest of that calendar year and all of the following year.  Purchase one ticket with cash or points and add a companion for free.
  • The best timing for earning the Companion Pass is to earn the 110,000 points as early as possible within a calendar year in order to use the pass for almost two full years.
  • The easiest way to earn the Companion Pass is to sign up for two 50K Southwest Airlines credit card offers (found here, when available).  That will give you nearly all of the required points once you meet the minimum spend requirements for those cards.  Currently, each offer requires $2,000 spend. 
  • This 1-800-Flowers offer can be used either to get the Companion Pass from scratch with 63 separate orders, or better yet, can be used to get the additional points you need if you have another way to earn points (such as the credit card offers mentioned above).  If you go the credit card route and need 6,000 additional points, you would only have to place three 1-800-Flowers orders to get almost 6,000 points (3 orders = 5250 points; 4 orders = 7000 points).
  • You can earn additional rewards by linking your credit card (Visa or MasterCard) to your Sears’ Shop Your Way Rewards (SYWR) account.  Sears is currently offering 40% back in points for purchases made at 1800FlowersPlease see this post for details.
  • You can save additional money by enrolling your American Express cards in the current “Spend $50, get $15 back” offer (details here).  Keep in mind that the $50 spend requirement is cumulative across orders, so you could pay for two separate orders with one enrolled Amex card.  As long as the cumulative total is more than $50, you should earn the $15 rebate.  This offer cannot be combined with the Sears SYWR offer since that offer only works with Visa and MasterCard credit cards.
  • You cannot combine this promo code offer with online portals.  Portal rewards will appear to be credited, but then will be clawed back later.  See: 1800Flowers portal claw back.

Sign up for Passport and Fresh Rewards

Before placing orders at 1-800-Flowers, make sure to sign up for their Passport program which costs $29.99 for a year of free shipping.  You can go through a cash back portal to 1-800-Flowers to buy this and get up to 20% cash back (find current portal offers here).  Also, make sure to sign up for their Fresh Rewards program which will give you credit towards free future purchases.

When to order, and when to deliver

In order to take advantage of the current promotion, you must place your orders by February 14th.  It is OK to schedule delivery after that date, but keep in mind that you will not earn the bonus points until after delivery.  If you plan to ship food to Food Gatherers, please follow these suggestions:

  • Schedule packages to arrive Monday through Thursday. 
  • Avoid holidays, including the day before a holiday.

What to order

To get the most bang for your buck (AKA points per dollar), each order should be as close as possible to $29.99, but not less.  And, Food Gatherers has requested that we send fruit and nuts, but not candy or cookies.  Towards that end, we’ve identified several good options:

Harry and David® Favorite Royal Riviera® Pears

Product code: 141481. $29.95 (this one seems to work despite being 4 cents less than the required amount)

Harry and David® Favorite Royal Riviera® Pears

The Popcorn Factory Sea Salt Slim Popcorn 24pk

Product code: 141432. $29.99

The Popcorn Factory Sea Salt Slim Popcorn 24pk

Wild Alaskan Smoked Sockeye Salmon

Product Code:102806

Wild Alaskan Smoked Sockeye Salmon

Arbor Harvest Fruit Collection

Note: at the time of this writing, the 1800Flowers website says “This special offer cannot be combined with Promotion Codes.”

Product Code:93055. Deluxe size. $29.99.

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Vintage Pressed Glass Jar with Jumbo Cashews

Note: at the time of this writing, the 1800Flowers website says “This special offer cannot be combined with Promotion Codes.”

Product Code:93597. $29.99.

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How many orders?

The number of orders you place depends upon your goals.  If you want to donate enough to get a Companion Pass in one fell swoop (and you haven’t earned points any other way), then you’ll need to place 63 separate orders.

You can calculate the number of orders you need to place by taking the number of points you need and dividing by 1750.  For example, if you need 6000 points, you can calculate the number of orders as follows:

6000 points required / 1750 points per order = 3.4 orders

If the calculated number is not a whole number, round up to the next nearest whole number.

Taxes

According to my accountant, donations to Food Gatherers as described here are tax deductible at the price paid.  The fact that the donor will receive miles for the purchase, in his opinion, is not relevant.  Critically, the points would come from 1-800-Flowers, not from Food Gatherers.  That is, Food Gatherers would be able to honestly report that they did not give the donor anything of value in exchange for the gift. Of course, you should check with your own tax advisor for your situation.  Keep in mind that tax deductions are different from tax credits.  Unlike a tax credit, if you spend $30 on an order it will not reduce your tax burden by $30.  The exact amount that it helps reduce your tax burden depends upon many factors that are unique to your tax situation.

Costs and benefits

Let’s assume you take the extreme approach and place 63 orders for delivery.  And, arbitrarily, let’s assume that you’ll save 25% of the cost of each order from your future taxes.  Let’s also assume that you pay with a BarclayCard Arrival Plus card (which earns 2 points per dollar) and that you linked the card to your Sears’ SYWR account (for 40% back in points).

Here are your expected costs:

  • Purchase Passport plan for free shipping: $29.99 – 20% portal rebate = $23.99
  • Place 63 orders at $29.99 each: $1,889.37
  • Deduct $1,889.37 in donations from taxes. At 25% tax savings: –$472.34
  • Total cost: $1441.02

In addition to helping to feed the hungry, you will get:

  • 110,250 Southwest Rapid Rewards points worth approximately $1687 in airfare.  This is based on my estimated Southwest point valuation of 1.53 cents per point (found here).
  • The Companion Pass can effectively double the redemption value of the points earned since each flight you take using points can include a free companion.  Of course, you might not use all of your points under these ideal conditions.  For example, sometimes you might fly alone or with more than two people.  Or, you might not use all of your points while the Companion Pass is still active.  So, let’s assume that the Companion Pass is worth half of the value of the points: $843.
  • 3,778 BarclayCard Arrival points worth 1.1 cents each towards travel = $41.56.
  • $756 in Shop Your Way Rewards points.  Since points expire over time and can only be used to buy merchandise (not gift cards) at Sears, Kmart, and other affiliated stores, we shouldn’t value the points at full face value.  Instead, let’s assume (somewhat arbitrarily) that points are worth 80% of face value: 80% of $756 = $605
  • Total estimated benefit: $3,176

As you can see, without accounting for the value of your time, the total estimated benefit far outweighs the costs even before considering the amount of good done by feeding the hungry!  In fact, this is true even if you do not take a tax deduction!

Ordering and donation instructions

Here’s how to order fruit or nuts and donate to Food Gatherers:

1. Browse to 1-800-Flowers and find the appropriate food items, or click through from here to one of these:

2. Log into your 1-800-Flowers account.

3. Order a single $29.99 item and ship it to:

Katie Bye
Food Gatherers
1 Carrot Way
Ann Arbor, MI 48105

Phone: 734-761-2796

4. Under location type, select “Business”.

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5. Schedule delivery based on when you want the points applied to your account.  Please see the section above titled “When to order, and when to deliver.

6. Save the address to your 1-800-Flowers address book to expedite your repeat orders.

7. Enter your name in the Card Message box.  For example, if your name is Jane Doe, you could enter: “Donation to Food Gatherers from Jane Doe”.

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8. DON”T FORGET to enter the promo code!  On the final check-out screen, make sure to enter the RR36 promo code and your Southwest Rapid Rewards number.  If you don’t already have a Southwest loyalty program number, you’ll have to signup for one first. VERY IMPORTANT: Make sure to press the “apply” button!

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9. Verify that the promo code was accepted.  You should see text saying “Promotion code RR36 ( SOUTHWEST AIRLINES ) has been applied to your order” or “Promotion is successfully applied to the order. 1750 pts per $1 min purchase $29.99”

10. Repeat all of the above for each order you want to place.

11. Send gift message to Food Gatherers once packages have been delivered (if you want a gift receipt).  I’d recommend setting up a calendar alert to remind you to do this. Once the deliveries have been made, send an email to Food Gatherers (info@foodgatherers.org), with details of your donation and your name and address.  This way, they can send you a donation receipt for tax purposes.  Here’s an example:

Please accept my donation of 63 boxes of fruit sent separately via 1-800-Flowers, and delivered on February 10th 2015. Sincerely Jane Doe, 123 Cashew Way, Somewhere City, CA 12345.

Note: I realize that the above steps can be overwhelming, especially if you intend to place 63 orders!  Please consider this carefully before deciding to go for it!

What can go wrong

This is far from a risk-free deal.  Here are some things that I can think of that could go wrong:

  • 1-800-Flowers might stop selling fruit and nuts at the $30 price point.  They might run out of stock or decide to raise prices, or whatever. The worst case would be if this happens half way through placing your orders.
  • 1-800-Flowers might stop allowing promo codes with the fruit and nut orders.
  • 1-800-Flowers could mess up and fail to award points.  Several readers have said that with past promotions they had to call to get their points awarded.  I can just imagine the phone call now… “Hi, I placed 63 separate orders using a promo code, but haven’t yet received the points…”
  • This might prove to be more work than expected.  Not only will it be a lot of work to place 63 orders, but things can go wrong at any point after that as well.  Keeping track of the orders and handling problems, could become a big job.

Trying to gift points

I had planned to run a contest in which I would gift 110,000 points and a companion pass to a reader by entering their Southwest Rapid Rewards number into each of my orders.  Unfortunately, this does not appear to work.  A reader tried this late last year (he entered his girlfriend’s Southwest number instead of his own), but the points were mysteriously added to his own Southwest account instead.  He says that he even called and confirmed with 1800Flowers that he had entered his girlfriend’s Southwest number!  So, I tried an experiment where I sent a fruit order to Food Gatherers and entered a friend’s Southwest number instead of my own.  In my case, the points never appeared in either account.  My assumption is that 1800Flowers gives both the Southwest Rapid Rewards number and the billing name to Southwest to credit the points.  Apparently things can go wrong if the two don’t match up.

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[…] Individuals can use 1800Flowers to send food donations to a charitable organization, for example.  Those donations could be itemized in order to reduce your tax burden. You can find an example of how to do this in this old post. […]

[…] also FrequentMiler’s posts: How to feed the hungry and fly for free and The 1800Flowers deal is […]

GM

Just a quick update that I was able to get Southwest Airlines to count the points from this 1800-FLOWERS promotion towards qualifying for a Companion Pass which I now have been awarded. Based on my experience though, YMMV.

Thanks again to ShlockDoc for updating this thread and letting me know that this was even a possibility.

[…] maybe since Frequent Miler’s earlier plan to donate fruits and nuts to charity via 1800 Flowers was thwarted, we can send TVs, grills, drills, and dining sets to them […]

ShlockDoc

Great news! I finally convinced Southwest that since my 65 orders were placed prior to them changing their policy, that I should get the Companion Pass. They finally agreed! I’m now the proud owner of a CP through the end of 2016 because of this deal. Thanks, FM!

LtRalph

Would you mind sharing the details on that? Was it a game of lots of Hangupandcallagain or did you go through a review process?

ShlockDoc

No HUCA really, just a few follow-up calls.

I called their executive support team and laid out the case. I placed 65 orders on the evenings of 2/2 and 2/3 and they changed their categorization of 1800FLOWERS points from “base” to “bonus” points” on 2/5.

The request got routed through a few teams and each person I spoke with said it sounded fair to them. Ultimately it got approved yesterday!

GM

Thanks for the additional information, ShlockDoc.

Did you have to provide documentation to show the policy change from base to bonus points?

I too made all my ordered prior to 2/5, but that’s the first thing that I think that they would ask for.

By the way, interestingly I had two orders for which the points did not post automatically to my Rapid Rewards account so I had to contact Southwest to get them. The points for those two orders that posted qualified towards the Companion Pass.

GM

Wow! Thanks for the update, ShlockDoc, and congratulations! I didn’t even think of pursuing this further.

ShlockDoc, what was the date that Southwest changed their policy and what did you provide for documentation to evidence this?

ShlockDoc

They changed their policy (a phrase that I repeated over an over) on 2/5. I didn’t need to provide documentation, they were well aware of it. I believe someone from SW called Flowers at some point to verify my order date since the date the posted into SW doesn’t indicate order date.

GM

I’m on the phone now with Southwest and the representative is still saying that the points awarded under the promotion do not qualify towards the Companion Pass. I wonder if it has anything to do with the promotion code used.

ShlocDoc, what promotion code did you use? I used RR36.

[…] Hello TWG readers, I wanted to share my experience with the recent 1-800-Flowers promotion to help qualify for the Southwest Airlines Companion Pass.  The inspiration and instructions for this endeavor came from Frequent Miler’s post: How to Feed the Hungry and Fly for Free. […]

VIP

I find their regular customer service to be hit or miss, so I offer you all this:
vipteam@1800flowers.com

I probably just screwed myself into even longer wait times, but if you want a good chance at a person that has common sense and speaks English, that’s your best bet.

ShlockDoc

Sone good news and some very bad news. The SW points for all of my deliveries that arrived last week posted to SW this morning. They were NOT companion pass qualifiying. FAVOR: Does anyone have a screenshot of the T&Cs from before they made the change? Still no post to SYW btw.

ugh that’s really awful. oh well…ends up being a wash overall – basically traded a bunch of money for RR pts that I will use eventually. would’ve never done this of course had I not thought they’d do the right thing and count the points towards the CP, but what can ya do? all part of game…

Charles

SWA RR points from my first 2 deliveries on 2/4 just posted – neither show as counting towards CP.

Dave

I got the points for 3 of 4 orders, the 3 that posted were the code for the 1750 points. I used one of the other two Southwest codes for the 4th order. Likewise not showing as counting towards the companion pass. SYW not posted either.

[…] about how best to take advantage of promotions like these.  Most recently, I published this: How to feed the hungry and fly for free (take two).  The key to maximizing offers like these (where you earn a fixed number of miles per order) […]

Monica

I already have a companion pass, I just want the points. I ordered 3 dozen things, and by getting in early was able to get in on the cashews, fruit, etc. (I am bummed the cashews aren’t eligible any longer because they are really delicious.)

I ordered some items for charity, some for ourselves, business gifts, and all our future birthday/mother’s day/etc type gifts for the next few months. So far I’ve been sorely disappointed. Two gifts I ordered to arrive the day before a birthday were delayed by five days. No one told me, I just tracked them and only now am seeing they still haven’t been delivered. I also ordered same-day delivery of balloons to someone in the ICU, and a week later they contacted me to say that the hospital only allows one balloon delivered so they didn’t do it. Would’ve been nice to know sooner that my gift did not arrive.

The moral of this story is I’ll only order from this company when the payoff is huge, and not when I need something reliably delivered.

Matt

I ordered a few things at the start to test the waters. Had a bad feeling after they changed the terms and the website became ‘wonky.’ This will probably end up being more hassle than reward for the folks who went all-in for the CP. But I could be wrong…

getting a little nervous since I had my first order delivered on Thursday and have no points posted yet. any cause for concern?

ShlockDoc

Also concerned but still hopeful…

Matt

yes, they have now told me that items that I ordered which were $29.99 did not qualify for the promotion because they were “sale” priced.

Nicole @ LibertyBellesBlog

hmm…I didn’t order anything that was on sale, and I doubt they can claim it was. but we shall see.

ShlockDoc

This is not good. I’ve been holding off on calling but now I’m getting nervous. Has anyone other than Michelle seen their SW points post?

Michelle

ShlockDoc, I don’t have near the orders you do so take what I say with a grain of salt but I think you will be fine. You did your orders early & I can’t imagine them being able to retroactively take the points you earned away. Really crappy of 1-800 to change the rules after it started. I’m rooting for ya!

Nikki O

I keep on getting this: We are sorry, the promotion code RR36 you entered is not valid for any items in your cart. Seriously? I’m actually just trying to send flowers. Anyone have items that are still working?

Sandie

Not a one…. grrr

nathaniel

Yep, same here. I think its dead for any item.

not a donation item, but the $29.99 Peruvian Lilies worked for me a few hours ago. had to scour my brain to find enough people to send them to without seeming like a crazy person 🙂

Carol

This is a very wonky website. Yesterday, it appeared to accept the promo code for food products. Today, I get a message saying that they do not qualify. It’s really frustrating. Also, I purchased the free shipping but if I attempt to buy from anything but the primary website, I’m logged out and the free shipping is not recognized.

Sandie

I think I’ve scoured through everything and besides a few items it appears nothing is available to purchase for $29.99…neither for donations or gifts…bummer

Sandie

I think I’ve scoured through everything and besides a few items it appears nothing is available to purchase for $29.99…neither for donations or gifts…bummer

And it takes a bit of clicking having to add all info to last page only to find out it does not qualify…or is there a page which shows all items available with the promotion…thanks