Hacking Walt Disney World

At a frequent flyer get together late last year, I had the pleasure of dining with a woman who is an expert in all things Disney (or, at least, much more expert than me in anything Disney, so that’s good enough for me).  She was telling me a number of tricks for getting the most out of Disney World when I suggested that it would make a great blog post.  It turns out that she had already written up many of her secrets on a thread in the Saverocity forums.  So, she emailed the information to me, with permission to publish.  What follows is a combination of her original work and my commentary.  Her work is indented as quotations…

This is only good at Disney World Orlando

I don’t think she ever goes on to explain why these tricks won’t work at other Disney locations.  Maybe she just hasn’t tested elsewhere?  Or, maybe they have different technology at different parks?  Moving on, the author describes the basics of Disney’s Fastpass+ system…

Fastpass+ is the Disney system for ride reservations.

You can reserve, in advance or day of, three rides where you will go through the special line and not have to wait 30-240 minutes.

You get three, once all three are used you can then get another one based on what is left.
If it is busy nothing will be left.

Last time I went to Disney I didn’t know that you can reserve Fastpass+ before going to the park.  As a result, even though we went in the morning, the only useful passes were for late in the evening.  Since we didn’t plan on staying that long, the whole Fastpass+ system was useless to us.  The author moves on to cover more of the basics…

So, you are going to WDW. Yay!?!?
You set up my Disney experience for each family member and linked your reservation and tickets.
Or just tickets if staying off site.
Well done. You can pick 3 rides or attractions for each person for each day.
Grab those at 60 days for onsite or 30 if staying in a non Disney bed.
Marvel at how cool this is if you are a first time visitor.
Use a map of the parks to try to keep crisscrossing the park to a minimum.

Hold the phone! You can reserve passes up to 60 days in advance?! No wonder nothing was left when I went!  Next up, the author alludes to tricks that we should have known and used before (but in my case, I didn’t):

If you have been before maybe you knew the old Fastpass hacks: disconnected rides, double dips, never ending return times, and so on. Odds are you used 5+ Fastpass a day.

Now she moves on to more tips for making the most of the current system:

Three is not nearly enough, although the ‘fast’ 20 minute line feels really fast if you just waited in a 90 minute line to see a Princess (or was that a fairy?). Or a 240 minute line to see a Snowman (fist fights can be found on YouTube), I kid you not. I never wait more than 30 minutes for any ride unless the ride breaks down and I get trapped. This trick plus the two most important tricks to avoid lines combine to really shorten wait times.

Trick 2: get to the parks about 45 minutes before they open. Lines are shortest from open to 10 AM.

Trick 3: go to the right park. Avoid Extra Magic Hour parks (for the most part) and try to go to the park that had extended hours yesterday.  Advanced player mode: know ride capacity per hour to figure out which lines get long first.

Now the “hacking” begins:

Time is money and in the magical land of Disney time is big money.
No CC or status is going to get you out of those lines. But this will: Create a second mydisneyexperiance account.

Use a unique email, and do not link it in any way to anything you linked to the first one. No tickets, no reservations, no dining reservations. Book a new reservation that is at least 31 days away, 40 is better. Pick your colors and names for your magic bands. Have fun with the names, it helps you keep the Magic Bands straight if you use different names.

They will ship to you around the 30 day mark. As soon as you get them cancel your fake reservation. You may need to change your arrival date (no charge) in order to be far enough out to get a 100% refund. (Hint, that works with all the big chains for last minute cancellations too).

You can do both the change and cancelation in one call. The agents can not override the fees if you are too close to your arrival date, but the nicer ones will suggest this method, it is how I learned the free cancelation trick. We did this to get Magic Band set 2.

If you are the type of person who has made peace with the fact that you will be going to Disney again in 3-5 years you can buy your park tickets now to lock in the price. Ticket prices go up and up, it is a sure bet. You can add these future use tickets to Magic Band set 2 and put fast passes on them 30 days out.  That is because when Disney changed over to the new system they dropped the check that required a ticket had been used to enter the park that day to be able to use it with the Fastpass system. Read that again, it is the key. This might change but I kind of doubt it will, they are a hot mess with server overload already.

UPDATE 6/9/2017: It looks like Disney may be checking for this hack and shutting down accounts that do it. Please see: Disney attacks Disney hacks.

There was a brief magical time when anything with a magnetic strip could pull a Fastpass. I digress.

If you are not wanting to invest $1600 in future use tickets, you can still get 3 extra Fastpass per day with Magic Band set 2 Because they don’t need to have a ticket attached to work. You enter the park with Band1 which has your park tickets and 3 Fastpass+ selections stored on it for prime rides between 1-5pm. You set that up 30 or 60 days ago. You put those in your daypack (you do need a day pack). You pull out Bands2 and find someone with an iPad or a kiosk. You act like you have never heard of this fast+ thing except for the video on the bus. They will help you add three Fastpasses to each band and explain how to use them. Be sure to mention you have plans to go back to your room and swim between 1-5 or whatever hours you already have Fastpasses for.

Next, the author explains why it is worth your time to set this stuff up…

Too much work?
If you have young kids this will save you hours each day.
Do the math.
Four tickets at an average per day cost of $50 is $200.

If you are fit and heat tolerant and have kids that are troopers and past nap age, maybe you can do a 12 hour park day. My kids can do 10, plus 10 makes the math easy. But be honest, you can not spend 16 hours riding rides and do it again the next day.

A family of 4 just in park tickets pays $20 an hour to be in the parks. Three extra Fastpasses even for minor attractions (if you have to wait until you enter the park) is going to save you at least 3 hours a day. It also gives you the real option to park hop. So the effort is worth at least $60 a day.

And, she follows up with good advice (for almost any hacks):

Do this now even if you have no trip in the near future. Right now Disney is sending out free Bands to everyone with a reservation. However they have already started selling them at $12.95 each for people not staying at a Disney Resort. They have said all along that they might start charging a fee, even for Resort guests, at some point. Do this now if you think you might, possibly, go to WDW at some point.

I predict the Magic Bands will become another Disney fake ‘free’ offer. Free Magic Bands for guests staying between x-Y, book now. Limited time offer. I also predict they will start giving them out at check-in instead of mailing them to you 30 days in advance. So this is like the US Bank Visa Buxx card, you will wish you had set it up once it is gone.

More Disney tips…

Start with dining:

Just in case you don’t know this, the Free Dining offer Disney loves to offer is not Free, it is more expensive than just paying for your food. Room only offers of 25% or more are the best deals. They are often a great value on Club Level rooms at Animal Kingdom Lodge. Those rooms come with the best savannah view for only a little bit more than a regular room with that view. It is a dark resort and kind of far from the Magic Kingdom, but it is really unique.

Consider getting the Disney debit card rather than the credit card:

Chase offers a Disney Debit card checking account that I’ve only ever seen in branch. My son has one. This card will get the in park perks (a special photo and free 5×7, entrance to Chase lounges during special events, maybe in store discounts although I’ve never tested that). To get the Disney CC with $100 offer, book a dummy reservation. Public offer is $50. Order free CD from Disney website (vacation planning CD) to get the $200 offer on the premiere card.

Consider saving money with a Disney Vacation Savings Account (load with gift cards!):

Disney Vacation Savings Account, open and load $1. When you book a trip or buy tickets from Disney, load the account a few days ahead of time (free with any form of payment including Disney Gift Cards) then use account to pay for trip/tix and Disney will give you $20/$1000.

Save money on Disney gift cards (then use them to buy tickets directly or to load a Disney Vacation Savings Account. See above):

Buy Disney Gift Cards online from Target. Set any Red Card as default payment and the free s/h and 5% off will be added to your account even if you use another form of payment. Target gift cards can be used for merchant gift cards, typically they are 3-4% off from resellers, higher around Christmas, they were 8% off this year. I’ve also seen Target GC at grocery stores.

Buying tickets:

Disney ticket broker: Undercovertourist is my go to for tickets. But I always do the math, sometimes the Disney Gift Card with % off is a better discount.

I realize that some of the above may read like gibberish if you’re not familiar with Disney.  Please ask questions in the comments below.  If you’re lucky, the author of these hacks may find time to answer.  Otherwise, I’ll do my best…

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Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa…slow down. There’s someone else in the points and miles world who *also* loves Disney World as much as I do? This is a pretty revolutionary concept. As a straight guy in my 30’s it is always interesting to see what gets a more confused response from people – when I tell them the lengths I go to for miles and hotel points or when I tell them that I spend a decent portion of those visiting international Disney parks.

Some comments on the post:

1) The reason these tricks only work for WDW (as opposed to Disneyland or the international parks) is that each is on a separate computer system and each computer system is very different, with its own intricacies.

2) If you’re going to be spending more than, say, a single day at WDW it is absolutely worth it to buy a copy of The Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World and their accompanying site touringplans.com. I don’t work for them and am not in any way paid to write this, but they are the single best resource for seeing as much in the parks as you can in a limited amount of time. They basically take a massive data set of wait times and related factors and plot out for you the most efficient route through the parks (which often does involve crisscrossing quite a bit).

3) Get there early. Get there early. Seriously, just wake the heck up and get there early. The first two hours in the park are nearly an order of magnitude less busy than the peak time. The last few hours can be quiet too if you’re going in peak season and the Magic Kingdom is open super late (like, later than midnight).

4) Prioritize what you want to do. Some people like to see and do everything (the maximizers of the Disney world). Others dread the thought of 14 hours of rushing from place to place. Do you prefer rides? Shows? Parades? Dining?

5) Getting popular Disney dining reservations can be like trying to snag that one First Class seat that is actually available for an award redemption. It takes advance planning and checking regularly for cancellations. Is it worth it? It really depends. The most popular restaurants on property are popular as much for the ambiance as for the food (Be Our Guest, Cinderella’s Royal Table). Some other popular places, like Le Cellier, are delicious but are also not so incredibly unique that you couldn’t find a great steakhouse at home (plus once you learn to make your own cheddar cheese soup you’ll never leave the house again).

Randy Sutter

Wow! I think that is awesome! So efficient! Forgive the stupid question.. But regarding the 2nd set of Magic Bands, the article suggests finding a CM with an IPad and acting as if I have no idea about this ‘fastpass+’ thing…and then the CM will explain it all to me and load 3 Fp’s on each of our 4 MB ‘s?? Is it that easy?? Also (and last stupid question), I still have our Magic Bands from our Dec ’13 trip. Can is simply use those as my ‘2nd’ set?? I currently only have one MDE account and the old MB’s still show up on it. We are extreme riders and any angle we can use to acquire additional FP’s is HUGE!! Thanks again for all the great info.


Great post, makes me want to go to Disney. I remember reading this on the forum and thinking that I definitely needed to make a more careful study of it if/when we go to Disney again. I would just have to do all the hacks and not try to explain it to my husband. Or as bit of a giggle for myself, maybe I should explain it to him. That would be funny.


I think it was a great post also…but my head is spinning.


Holey smokes! The last time I went to Disney World in Orlando was back in 2000 when I was a teenager/kid. I personally have no plans to go to Disney until I have kids who can walk (past toddler age). I’m just surprised how much has changed! Back in 2000, I remember the extraordinary thing was obtaining the fastpass that will give you a time later in the day to go back.


This reminds me of some of the best Disney advice I got. Even if your children are well past the stroller age, let them ride in a stroller anyway. Bring an umbrella stroller if you can or rent one in the park.
We had our 4 and 6 year olds in strollers and it seemed ridiculous beforehand, but when we were there it made total sense. Granted, we went on the 26th of December, so it was crazy to the point that it was hard to walk around due to the crowds. Having the kids in the strollers where they couldn’t get separated from us, and also didn’t need to be endlessly on their feet was a really really big deal.


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So basically the “hack” involves stealing magic bands?


@jason ‘borrowing’ magic bands against a future visit 😉


You don’t actually need a band, just some kind of RFID-chipped “ticket,” which could be a band or a card. If you order those tickets for next visit as suggested and have them shipped to you rather than doing will call, for instance, the cards they send you will work for setting up Fastpasses in all the same ways.


What other RFID chip band would you use? How would you get it to link from the WDW fastpass site to the “other chipped device?


We’re Disney fanatics. I’ve been pretty obsessed for the last 10 years and we typically take 2-4 trips a year. Planning a Disney trip is a similar “rush” as the points and miles stuff. There are tons of details and tricks that you can uncover.

I agree with most of what your “Disney hacker” has to say, except for the scheme for extra FP’s. I was all about maximizing our FP’s with the legacy system (disconnected rides, collecting FP’s to use later in the day due to lack of return time enforcement, etc.), but I’d be careful with the idea proposed. If you make a resort reservation to pull off this plan, they are going to have your personal information, even if your accounts aren’t connected. I would concerned about the long term repercussions and consequences (being banned) if Disney decided to get tough about something like this. It would not be difficult for them to link your different accounts and reservations together (I say this as someone with a hyphenated last name who seems to have several aliases in the Disney reservation system). I suppose it is unlikely, but I guess I’m too much of a Disney addict to get my drug of choice taken away from me.

We just took a relatively spur of the moment trip over President’s Day weekend which is historically one of the busiest weekends of the year. Granted, we’re park veterans, but we did fine by getting there early (45 minutes early is about right), hitting the slow load, popular rides first, and using our FP’s. I booked under 30 days out and was still able to get decent FP’s. No Mine Train, but everything else we wanted was available.

100th Happy Haunt

I’m not sure what Disney would get tough on. This is something that only needs to be done once.

Many many guests book stays and then need to cancel. Many also create a new mydisneyaccount when they book again.

That said, if you are very familiar with the parks, getting by with just one set of Fastpass+ isn’t too hard. The biggest problem with the new system is how hard it is to use for people less familiar with the parks.


I am a little confused. When I set up the disney experience account, must I have tickets to reserve the fast passes or do I just need a hotel reservation?
Also if I purchase tickets for 5 yrs out and add them to this account, what do I link to the 1st account?

100th Happy Haunt

Yes you need a ticket to reserve Fastpass+ in advance. You can reserve for as many days as you have tickets for. If you have two sets of tickets, one for now and one for 5 years from now, you would link one set to each.

Mydisneyexperiance Account + resort reservations = a set of Magic Bands.
Mydisneyexperiance Account + tickets = ability to reserve Fastpass+ 30 days in advance.
Mydisneyexperiance Account + resort reservations + tickets = Magic Bands, ability to reserve Fastpass+ 60 days in advance.

The Bands will work even if you cancel the Resort stay, but any linked dining or Fastpass+ resservations will be cancelled.


Question. If I link another set of fast passes to the second set of disney tickets, (and use the fast passes) What happens in two years when I use the Disney tickets for admission? Will I be able to set up more fast passes on those tickets, or have I used them up and am out of luck?


Obviously we all have a line when it comes to travel hacking. For me personally, FP hacking is over that line.

Essentially what this does is lower the amount of FPs available for park guests. The more that do it, the less the average family with children will have access; people who may have been saving for years for a once in a lifetime trip.


Agreed. If you learn the ins and outs of the system as people in our hobby tend to do, there’s no need to jump through all these hoops. You should be able to maximize the system as intended and have just as successful a trip.


Usually love your posts, but this was borderline incoherent.


Thanks for the links and tips. I used to be a Disney “expert” when my kids were younger (like 5 years ago). We got some astonishing deals, and I always wondered why people complained that Disney was expensive. But Disney has been pretty ruthless in closing the loopholes. Like we’d buy no expiration 1-day passes for only a few bucks more than the expiring tickets. And then get the full free Disney dining for 4 by staying at the cheap-but-fun ($75/night) Pop Century. It was a great, cheap vacation with great dining, even if you weren’t very interested in the rides. Alas, they wised up. I’m glad there are at least a few new loopholes to exploit — at least for now.


Whoops — make that 10-day no expiration tickets!


I live right next to Disney World. The FP+ hacking trick works, but I have heard that Disney knows about this “hack” and will probably shut this trick down sometime soon (my guess is in 2015 sometime), as it’s been posted about on numerous other sites. I refuse to do it because it crosses the line for me personally, but it’s like any other trick to get free stuff (like MS).

My personal favorite tip is the 5% off Disney gift cards at Target, or 10% when combined with the Target Pharmacy 5% off coupon. Works best for me to pay down Disney Cruise bookings.


Ditto the praises lavished on “The Unofficial Guide to Disney”. It’s a brilliant, entertaining book and incredibly helpful even with Disney’s sad, new Fastpass system.

If you’re working on amassing Chase points, some Staples stores sell Disney gift cards which you can buy (for your 5x points) and then use those Disney gift cards to purchase your park tickets (at a Disney store or at a park) and/or your in-park food.

If you want to eat at the popular Be Our Guest restaurant; the Disney dining reservations systems open up approximately 10 days earlier for guests staying in Disney resorts. By the time the regular folk are allowed to make reservations, all of the reservations options are taken so consider staying at a Disney resort for a night (Art of Animation is clean and relatively inexpensive plus there are Little Mermaids on the wall).

Max M

Just be aware that the Swan and Dolphin hotels, while technically considered on-property hotels, do not qualify for the priority Be Our Guest reservations available to “real” Disney hotels within that 10 day window. [found this out during the trip we just took in Feb.]


Re: 180 day ADRs (Advanced Dining Reservations)
Seems like most are confused about how many days out exactly. It is not 180 days + 10 for WDW resorts. It is 180days for WDW resort guests, plus the length of your trip. You may make reservations starting 180 days before the 1st day of your trip. If you are staying 7 days, then you may make ressies for your last day at 187 days out, ressies for your 4th day 184 days out, etc. I think the max is a 10 day trip.


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We’re Disney fans too and go once per year, we’re DVC members, use our Disney Visa to earn enough Disney Dollars to earn approx $1500 per year. There are a lot of tips, including which direction to go in the park when you arrive. After 10+ years, I know many tips, however, one I am uncomfortable with is the Magic Band/FP hack. While time is money and long wait times can be frustrating for everyone, it crosses the line for me also. IMO that hack goes along with the people that rush to get on the busses ahead of those that have been waiting for several minutes. A little bit of courtesy, and class, goes a long way. Disney is about children and every child deserves to see their favorite show/ride as much as anyone else’s. I hope you will consider editing this post to not include that hack.



Leslie H (tripswithtykes)

At Family Travel for Real Life conference this weekend and someone tipped me off about this post tonight. I’m speaking in the AM about travel hacking Disney and agree that many of these tips are spot on for those of us who are Disney obsessed. The Magic Band hack is over the line of what I’m comfortable doing though, as others have said.

As for Disneyland, Fastpasses are still in paper form and only available in person from kiosks in the park the same day (for now). No advance booking. I always tell people not to let Disneylanders give you advice about WDW and not to let WDW folks give you advice about Disneyland. While some skills are transferable, the parks are very different in terms of hackability and strategy at the moment. Disneyland should be moving to the WDW system in the next year or two if the rumors are right.

Thanks for featuring a little Disney on FM.


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I know this is an older post but wondered if this similar scenario would work. If you are a passholder family of 4, so you can book 30 days out. Say two of you want to go to the park one day, can you get 6 fastpasses for the day instead of three but using the two other passholders magic bands?


AJ: You can not load all 6 onto one band, but you CAN use the other person’s band. Not sure if the other person would haver to come thru the admission gate to activate their band in that park, I’ve heard Magic Bands will work for FPs even if the owner is not officially in the park. But I’m positive two people can go back to the hotel for a swim and leave the Magic Bands with the two who are staying.


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Perhaps I’m misunderstanding something, but if you’re still paying for a future visit, why not just buy two admissions?

I did this for a 7-day trip over the New Year 2014 into 15. We bought a resort package that came with 5 Bands of five different colors, with 3 FPs per day we could book 60 days out (67 for the last day). Then I bought an entirely different set of Bands (all gray) with another 3 FPs per day we could book 30 days out. The extra set for 5 people was $1500, minus 5% because I used Disney Gift Cards purchased from a wholesale club. So for $1425 I got 105 extra FPs, 3 per day for 5 people. Given that we were spending thousands on airfare and resort, I found this to be a great value to save us from ever waiting in line during the busiest week of the year. Basically we added 11% to the total cost of the trip and more than doubled our efficiency and more importantly reduced waiting to nothing and gained time to relax at the pool and dining experiences. Plus, we could book two level ones on the same day (Toy Story Mania/ Rock n’ Roller and Test Track / Soarin’).

Is the way described above cheaper? When you go to use that “future trip” are they going to let you use FPs or will they show up expired?


The hack is basically saying the 2nd set of FP+s is Free. Following this perilous strategy, you are to reserve a totally unique and separate trip to WDW, for the same time frame of your actual trip. 30days before your trip, WDW should’ve sent your both sets of Bands.
Once received, call WDW up and push the arrival date out a month or so for the fake 2nd reservation (tell them your Dog is dying or something). Then, before the new 45 day 100% refundable window arrives, call up to cancel and get your full money back for everything you’ve reserved. You still get to keep those extra Bands and the FP+s will still be available, but you can only reserve those extra FP+s in the parks at FP Kiosks.

As cheap as I can get, won’t be doing this. I believe in Karma… so who needs a sick child or something equally disasterous during their trip, LOL.

WDW can & should close this loophole with a hefty security deposit on each band, refundable upon return shipment 😉


I forgot to mention that your plan is great, Dan.
If you are paying for a premium vacation, what’s another 11% to save yourself time & energy and get the most from the money you’re already shelling out? You are paying for it, it’s 100% valid, and involves much more integrity than this hack.


Does anyone know if this is still working for 2016 (will be traveling in mid april)?

Also, must I go through the hotel hack side of it or can I simply purchase more magic bands from Disney ($12.95 each) and have them shipped to me to get the same benefits as described…. or is there a system in place I’m unaware of that the hotel options avoids that I can’t avoid by simply buying directly??

Ralph Wiestman

Yes. No need for the hotel hack described if not needed. Purchase as many extra MB’s as desired and use them for additional (in Park kiosks) FP’s. Most useful in MK of course.


So if you only need an extra set of magic bands, then why would an already used set not work – because they are in the same name as the new magic bands? We are going soon and one person in my party will not be there for 3 out of the 9 days. I was wondering if I purchased the additional 3 days on her magic band could I get fast passes for the days she does not validate her entry and let another female in our party use them?


That bit about the Disney Vacation Account is slightly incorrect.
$10 is required to open an account – not $1. Additionally, the account has to be open at least 30 (might be 60) days before using it to make a payment to be eligible for the $20/ $1000 bonus.
Another thing to note: that bonus comes in the form of a gift card, and it comes a few weeks before your vacation date IF the system is working correctly.


Is this hack still alive?


Has anyone noticed that you can’t buy Disney gift cards at Target.com anymore? Anyone know if this is temporary or permanent?


I’m sure they are just out for now and will restock soon, it’s happened before.

Hank Scorpio

I’ve read about this hack before. I think i’d probably feel more comfortable purchasing new, unlinked, magic bands at the park than booking a second completely fake reservation and then cancelling it. My understanding is the concept will work exactly the same. Two separate sets of bands for your family… two sets of fast passes… one for 60 days out and one for same day usage.

In any event… glad to know the hack is still alive.

Barbara Smith

If purchasing a second set of magic bands in the park the day of my visit to say MK, wouldn’t it have to have tickets linked to the magic band? How would FP+ work if no ticket linked?


The bands don’t require tickets to be linked. You can use “link them later” and simply link them to a fake name you create in your mydisney account… You just use the serial number on the back of the band.

The key is to make sure you do NOT link them to the same name as your tickets.

If staff want to link them for you don’t let them… Just say you’re buying for other friends or that they’re just souvenirs.

Once you link the bands to a fake name in “mydisney”… then use the magic bands at the in park kiosks to setup your fast passes… It’s the only way to setup fast passes on the unlinked-nonticket bands. The tickets can use the mydisney app or kiosks.

Once you have fast passes setup via the kiosks on the bands… THEN you can use mydisney to manipulate the fast passes (ie, changing times)…but you’ll always need to hit a kiosk to add new fast passes if memory serves.


Buy extra MB’s…preferably before you get to park. Order online straight from Disney website.

Create new MDE account. You CAN use same names and physical address, BUT use a different email address.

Once you have new MB’s, go to your newly created MDE account and link your MB’s (using the number on the back of MB).

You are all set. Visit in-park kiosk and snag your 3 add’l FP’s.

Of course I could go into further details of how to take advantage of more FP hacks…but this should answer your question. Enjoy


Just to add to this… Of your make a new MDE account you can certainly use the same names….

But if you’d rather just manage one MDE account, then you’ll need to use different names from my understanding.

On our trip we used one MDE account and simply added a few fake names.

Staff don’t care as long as the fasspass turns green, lol


Last trip, two people passholders but three are resort guest. One does not have a ticket attached and a cast member signed that person in. We were able to go to an in park kiosk and book fast passes for him since we were in the park. It seems that it only checks for a vaild ticket when you are booking fast passes online, it assumes since you are in the park then the magic band is vaild. Another time, 2 guest with regular tickets in park and also had 2 passholder magic bands who were not in park. Booked fast passes on all 4 bands in advance, was able to use all. The magic band did not need to be swiped into the park.


I wonder if you could use a friend’s MBs from a previous trip that does not currently have any tickets or reservations on it? Or does it have to be a previously unused one?


From what I can tell… Shouldn’t matter.

Worst case, they don’t work so walk into a Disney store in the park and buy new ones at that point.


Does anyone know if this magic band hack still works?


Hi Greg- For this Hack, two quick questions.

1- instead of setting up a 2nd/unrelated mydisneyexperince login, make a reservation to then get the bands and then cxl the reservation, can i just buy 4 new magic bands and bring them with me into the parks and use the kiosks with those? or, is having a mydisnexperience login/identity linked to the bands part of this process it that actually makes it work?

2- would i be able to just bring with me 4 magic bands from one of our previous trips and use those? i assume that this won’t work because those are associated with my actual mydisney login?

thanks so much for this info, it is so helpful!


Your previous MB’s will not work IF you’ve booked your current trip under the same MDE acct.
You can buy MB’s online and then link them them to a NEW (dummy) MDE acct. Then simply access the kiosk within the Park for three same day FP’s. And possibly a 4th after the initial 3 are used and so on.
Booking and then canceling after receiving MBs from Disney would result in possible charges depending on the timing.
Just remember to use a separate email addresses for dummy MDE acct.


Great- thanks so much. One last question. I buy 4 MB for this upcoming trip, link them to dummy MDE acct and use those MB for FPs. Can I then also use those MBs on future trips to do the same thing or would I need to do the process over from scratch for each trip? Thanks again

Disney Fanatic

will I have to set up fast passes for each band individually for a family of 5 or if I have all the bands set up to a new MDE account I can make the fast passes and link the other parties???


I believe if all 5 MB’s are linked to the secondary MDE, then you should be able to select fp’s as a group instead of individually.


I plan on park hopping one day in October with my family of 4 (AK in morning and Epcot in evening). My concern is I won’t be able to add same day fast passes for Soarin after using my 3 fp at AK. If I order 4 additional magic bands and link them to a different MDE account – how and when can I use them to make adiitional fp reservations and do I need to book another set of park tickets and go through hassle of cancelling them later? Thanks.


Dave, I have a few questions maybe you can help?
1. Can I use a friends old magic bands that she used in her account and use them in my new dummy account?
2. I originally booked a hotel outside Disney so bought magic bands online and already linked them to our fast passes. I just changed to a Disney hotel and on my MDE account it says “your magic bands will be waiting for you on arrival”. Do you think they will make us link those when we check in? Or can I just ask to link them later? Will they question me since I already have bands linked? Thanks!


1. You can’t change to whom a MB is assigned to: once linked, they can’t be changed. You cannot use a friend’s MB on a new dummy (or real) person’s account.
2. You can decline new MB (for your upcoming onsite reservation). But you cannot ‘link them later.’ They are only going to give them to you as linked to the people on the resort reservation. (In contrast, when you buy a MB at disney’s store online or in a park, those aren’t linked to anyone.)
**Regardless, if you are asking these questions because you are hoping to book ‘phantom’ (or same day) fastpasses, don’t bother. Disney closed that loophole last year. If caught they will freeze your account (and apparently it isn’t easy to convince them to unfreeze it. The only FP that can be used are ones for which a ticket was used that day to gain entry into that park. HTH


So if I bought 4 Magic bands for my family extra and then went to the kiosk in the park would I have to set each one up individually or if I have them linked to my other MDE account I could set up all the fastpasses when I scan mine??

Laura C

I’m going in October/November this year and I’ll definitely be bringing with some extra magic bands for day-of passes. I’m also thinking of modifying our reservation from 6 nights to 10 so that I can make dining reservations a few days earlier and make sure I can get Victoria & Albert’s Chef’s Table at 190 days rather than 186. Then later I’ll change our arrival date back to the real date I want to arrive on. I’ve heard shortening your stay can cause you to lose promotions, but since my vacation was booked at full price, I’m not worried about that. Has anyone tried this? Are there any other risks in doing this?


Oct/Nov is such a great time to go.

I too used that strategy last year, and made my arrival date 10 days prior to the actual. it made the dining (and fp+ too when near the 60 day timing) reservations very easy, though i did have to be sure to login and make reservations for 7 consecutive mornings.

as you had mentioned you were not booked with a promotion or discount, i don’t think you have any problems shortening your reservation when that time comes. the one instance where that could definitely affect things is if you have a villa reservation booked and a shorter stay may not even be available.

any follow up questions, let me know.


Hi- Quick question. We are heading down for Easter week. I purchased 4 magic bands, created a dummy mde acct (with a different email address) and plan to use those bands to get the extra FP.

My question is, can I login to the app on my phone with my dummy mde acct and get/manage those FP on there, or do I need to only manage those via a Kiosk???

Thanks as always 🙂


Update for anyone looking to the extra magic band and dummy mde account. We used this approach during Easter Week April ’17 and it worked no problem. Any questions, let me know.


Did you use app for “dummy” MDE & for actual MDE? Did you just log in & out when you needed to switch MDE accounts?


Hi- Next time we go I think I will log into dummy and my wife will log into actual. during our trip though, i only used the kiosks for the dummy bands.

it worked out great.


Correct! Use the App and/or the website. My family and I have been doing this for years. Have a great trip!


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