30,000 miles to nowhere: Mission accomplished.

Background: Until recently, there was a one time opportunity to get top tier American Airlines AAdvantage elite status (Executive Platinum) by enrolling in and completing the US Airways Preferred Status Trial.  For fun, I decided to go for it and I know that many readers did too.  All we had to do was fly 30,000 miles on US Airways or American Airlines flights in 90 days.  Follow along through this series of posts, or on Twitter search for hashtag #30Ktonowhere.  For additional background, please see:The last great mileage run

Last week I completed my planned mileage runs.  Early Wednesday morning, I flew from Detroit to Las Vegas via Dallas on American Airlines.  Within half an hour of landing in Vegas, I boarded a US Airways flight to Philadelphia (along with many other mileage runners).  In Philadelphia, we spent an hour or so in the Admiral’s Club before flying back to Vegas.  The next morning some of us flew to Philadelphia and back, again.  Then, on the third day I returned to Detroit on US Airways, via Phoenix.

The above itinerary may sound like torture, but it was actually fun.  When I bought into the US Airways Preferred Trial (no longer available), I paid extra for temporary Platinum status.  That turned out to be a good move.  I was upgraded on nearly every US Airways flight.  That made a big difference in the comfort-level of continuous flying.

A typical day of mileage running went like this:

  • Arrive at the Las Vegas airport around 8:30 or 9:00 and head directly to the Centurion Lounge (I get access thanks to having a Platinum card. I always tend to have a Platinum card even if it’s a different Platinum card each year)
  • Eat breakfast in the lounge (they have very good food there) and meet up with other frequent flyers
  • Board the 11:10 am flight to Philly at around 10:40 am.
  • Eat a big lunch on the flight (US Airways’ food is barely tolerable, but they give you a ton of it in first class)
  • Arrive in Philadelphia and spend an hour or so in the Admiral’s Club lounge, along with other frequent flyers (I get access via either my Citi Prestige card, or my Citi AA Executive card — which I’ll cancel when the annual fee comes due).
  • Board the 8:20 pm flight to Vegas at around 8:00 pm.
  • Eat a big dinner on the flight
  • Arrive back in Vegas and get to my hotel at around midnight

The worst part of the itinerary (besides the US Airways beef-like dish which I made the mistake of ordering once) was the constant sitting.  I made a point in the Admiral’s Club lounge to never sit down, except for pictures (I’m the guy sitting down):

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My 4 mile buffer

I reported before that I had booked 30,004 flying miles (after accounting for 500 mile minimums on shorter segments).  That didn’t leave much room for error if things went wrong.  Luckily, things went right.  I finished the last of my 30,004 miles last Friday.  By Monday morning, my US Airways account reflected my new status:

30ktonowhere_success2

 

You can see that I’ve earned 28004 PQMs (Preferred Qualifying miles) in 2015.  I had already earned exactly 2,000 PQMs through flying in December (not shown here), so the total for my Trial period comes to exactly 30,004 miles.

Total cost

I took a business trip in December which earned 2,000 PQMs and a personal trip in January which earned 2180 PQMs.  I won’t count either trip in the costs below since I would have taken those trips anyway.  It cost me no more to fly US Airways for these trips than it would have to take any other flights.  In fact, I actually saved quite a bit on my personal trip since I used my US Airways companion pass to put my wife and son on the same flights for only $99 + fees each.  If not for the Trial, I probably would have otherwise stuck to non-stop flights on other carriers and would have paid substantially more.

I’m also not going to count transportation to or from airports or food/dining in the costs below.  Most of my airport rides were with Uber where I used credits from referrals (found here).  Taxis in Vegas were cheap and were often shared with others.  Food costs were almost non existent thanks to food served in first class and in lounges.  I probably actually saved quite a bit on food over what I would have spent at home.

As to hotels, my trips to Vegas required two two-night stays.  I used an Orbitz promotion (no longer available) for $100 off two night stays (details here) to book hotels at very low rates, even after resort fees were considered.  I also needed a one night stay in San Diego.  There I splurged a bit for a stay at the Hyatt Regency Mission Bay Spa and Resort where I paid a total of $166.93 after all fees and discounts.

Here’s the breakdown of costs:

  • DTW to LAS, via DFW: 9,015 ThankYou points
  • Hotel in Los Vegas for two nights: $63.93
  • LAS to PHL to LAS: $74.60
  • LAS to DTW, via PHX: 8,927 ThankYou Points
  • DTW to SAN via PHX (round trip): 20,000 US Bank FlexPerks
  • Hotel in San Diego for one night: $166.93
  • DTW to LAS, via DFW: 9,015 ThankYou points
  • Hotel in Los Vegas for two nights: Cost: $81.78
  • LAS to PHL to LAS: $74.60
  • LAS to PHL to LAS: $74.60
  • LAS to DTW, via PHX: 8,927 ThankYou Points

Sub-Totals (not including personal and business trips):

  • PQMs: 25,824
  • Redeemable Miles earned: 45,190 (includes 75% bonus for Platinum status)
  • Out of pocket cost for flights: $223.80
  • Out of pocket cost for hotels: $312.64
  • ThankYou points paid: 35,884 for $574.14 worth of flights
  • FlexPerks points paid: 20,000 points for $383.20 round-trip flight

Totals (using cash value of flights rather than points paid):

  • Flights: $1181.14
  • Flights + Hotels: $1493.78
  • Cost Per PQM: $1493.78 / 25,824 = 5.8 cents per PQM
  • Including $600 fee for Trial: $2093.78 / 25,824 = 8.1 cents per PQM

Another way to look at this is that I converted approximately 55,000 credit card points (ThankYou points + FlexPerks) into 45,000 US Airways miles, which is not a terrible conversion rate at all.  And, I paid a total of $536.44 out of pocket.  If you include the original cost of the US Airways Preferred Trial ($600), though, the out of pocket costs rise dramatically to $1,136.44.

What’s next?

Once American Airlines and US Airways merge their frequent flyer programs in the second quarter, my US Airways miles will merge with my AA miles and I’ll gain top tier elite status with AA.  Through both programs I should get international upgrade certificates that will let me buy economy fares and upgrade to business class.  Will I take full advantage of these perks?  Will I switch my routine domestic flying from Delta to AA/US?  Will the Joker get away with his nefarious plans?  Tune in next week…


Chase's 5/24 Rule: With most Chase credit cards, Chase will not approve your application if you have opened 5 or more cards with any bank in the past 24 months.

To determine your 5/24 status, see: 3 Easy Ways to Count Your 5/24 Status. An even easier option is to track all of your cards for free with Travel Freely.
Chase 5/24 semantics ("Subject to" vs. "Count towards"): Most Chase cards are subject to the 5/24 rule. That means the rule is enforced in making approval decisions. In other words, you probably won't get approved if your credit report shows that you opened 5 or more cards in the past 24 months. Meanwhile, most business cards (such as those from Chase, Amex, Barclaycard, BOA, Citi, US Bank, and Wells Fargo) are not reported on your personal credit report. These cards do not count towards 5/24.

Example: Chase Ink Business Preferred is subject to 5/24, so you likely won't get approved if over 5/24. If you do get approved, it won't count towards 5/24 since it won't appear as an account on your credit report.
Amex 5 credit card limit: If you apply for a new Amex credit card, you may get turned down if you already have 5 or more Amex credit cards. Both personal and business cards are counted towards this limit. Charge cards, though, are not counted. You can apparently get as many charge cards as you’d like, and the number of charge cards you have does not affect your ability to get up to 5 credit cards. Authorized user cards are also not counted towards the 5 credit card limit. See also: Which Amex Cards are Charge Cards vs. Credit Cards?
Applying for Business Credit Cards

Yes, you have a business: In order to sign up for a business credit card, you must have a business. That said, it's common for people to have businesses without realizing it. If you sell items at a yard sale, or on eBay, for example, then you have a business. Similar examples include: consulting, writing (e.g. blog authorship, planning your first novel, etc.), handyman services, owning rental property, renting on airbnb, driving for Uber or Lyft, etc. In any of these cases, your business is considered a Sole Proprietorship unless you form a corporation of some sort.

When you apply for a business credit card as a sole proprietor, you can use your own name as your business name, use your own address and phone as the business' address and phone, and your social security number as the business' Tax ID / EIN. Alternatively, you can get a proper Tax ID / EIN from the IRS for free, in about a minute, through this website.

Is it OK to use business cards for personal expenses? Anecdotally, almost everyone I know uses business cards for personal expenses. That said, the terms in most business card applications state that you should use the card only for business use. Also, some consumer credit card protections do not apply to business cards. My advice: don't use the card for personal expenses if you're not comfortable doing so.
Manufacturing Spend Caution: Many, many things can go wrong when manufacturing spend. If you suddenly increase credit card spend, your accounts may get shut down. If you cycle your balance often (e.g. spend to your limit, pay the bill, repeat) within a billing cycle, your accounts may get shut down. If you repeatedly pay your credit card bill from an anonymous bill payment source, your accounts may get shut down. If you buy lots of gift cards you may lose money due to gift card fraud, theft, loss, or simply mishandling those gift cards (e.g. maybe you thought you already used a gift card and tossed it into your “used” bin). If you rely on only one method to liquidate gift cards, you may be stuck unable to pay your credit card bill when that method gets shut down. In other words, don’t try this at home unless you know what you’re doing, and you understand and accept the risks..
Chase Ultimate Rewards points are super valuable and super flexible. At the most basic level, points can be redeemed for cash or merchandise, but you'll only get one cent per point value that way. A better option is to use points for travel. When points are used to book travel through the Ultimate Rewards portal, points are worth 1.25 cents each with premium cards (Sapphire Preferred or Ink Business Preferred, for example) or 1.5 cents each with the ultra-premium Sapphire Reserve card. Another great option is to transfer points from a premium or ultra-premium card to an airline or hotel program when high value awards are available (see this post for details). If your points are tied to a no-fee "cash back" Ultimate Rewards card, then first move those points to a premium or ultra-premium card before redeeming them in order to get better value.
Amex Membership Rewards points can be incredibly valuable if you know how to use them. In general, if you use Membership Rewards points to pay for merchandise or travel, you won't get good value from your points. One exception is with the Business Platinum card where you'll get a 35% point rebate when using points to book certain flights. This gives you approximately 1.5 cents per point value, which is pretty good. Another exception is with the Business Gold Card where you'll get a 25% point rebate when using points to book certain flights. This gives you approximately 1.33 cents per point value. If you don't have either card, then your best bet is to transfer points to airline miles in order to book high value awards. More details can be found here: Amex Membership Rewards Complete Guide.
Marriott points can be redeemed for free night awards, travel packages, airline miles, or experiences. 5th Night Free Awards: When redeeming points for free nights, the 5th night within a single reservation is free. Airline miles: Points can be converted to airline miles at a rate of 3 points to 1 mile. A bonus is added on when you transfer 60,000 points at a time, such that 60,000 points transfers to 25,000 miles. Also, you'll get a 10% bonus when transferring points to United Airlines.

Everything you need to know about Marriott's rewards program, Bonvoy, can be found here: Marriott Bonvoy Complete Guide
Editor’s Note: This guest post was written by the same guy who showed you how to fly round trip to Africa (DC to Senegal) for 50,000 points, how to book business class to Europe for 80,000 miles roundtrip, and more. You can find John’s website and award booking service here: theflyingmustache.com/awardbooking.
-Greg The Frequent Miler

Amex Application Tips



  • Safe to Apply: Amex is the safest bank for trying your luck at a new welcome bonus. They don’t usually issue a hard pull when denying your application. Plus, they’ll now warn you during the application process if you’re not eligible for the bonus.

  • Lifetime Rule: If you've ever had the same card before, you are most likely prohibited from getting a welcome bonus for the card if you apply now. Fortunately you'll be warned during the application process if this is the case. Amex is known to "forget" that you've had a card after about 7 years.

  • 5/90 Rule: In general, you can get at most one credit card within 5 days and 2 within 90 days. The 5 day limit is not enforced when your applications are automatically approved. Neither rule is enforced for charge cards.

  • 5 credit card max:Amex usually won't approve applications for new credit cards if you already have 5 or more Amex credit cards open. This limit does not apply to charge cards.

  • Better Offers: You may be able to get a better offer than the best available public offer. Details here.

  • Hard inquiries combine into 1 when approved same day


Check application status here.
If denied, call reconsideration: 877-399-3083 (new accountholders); 866-314-0237 (current accountholders)


Chase Application Tips

  • Shut-Down Caution: Signing up for new Chase cards can lead to Chase reviewing your accounts. This may lead to Chase shutting down all of your accounts if you appear to be a credit risk. See this post for details and recommendations: Why Chase shutdowns have increased and how to avoid them.
  • 5/24 Rule: With most Chase cards, you won't get approved if your credit report shows 5 or more cards opened in the past 24 months. Details here.
  • 24/48 Month Rule: With most Chase cards, you can get the same card and bonus again 24 months after having received the bonus as long as you no longer have the card open. With Sapphire cards, you must wait 48 months. No wait is required for Chase Ink cards.
  • 30 Day Rule: It is tough to get approved for more than 2 Chase cards within 30 days
  • Get Same Card Again: You can get the same exact card and again if you first cancel the older card and follow the 24/48 month rule. Ink cards are OK to get again without cancelling previous card if you apply with a new business.
  • Better Offers: You may be able to get a better offer than the best available public offer. Details here.
  • Hard inquiries combine into 1 when approved same day (not always true when mixing business and personal)

Call (888) 338-2586 to check your application status
If denied, call reconsideration here:1-888-270-2127 for both personal and business cards

Citi Application Tips


  • 24 Month Rule: To apply for a card within the same brand, must wait 24 months after opening or closing account.

  • Velocity Rules: Max 1 personal card per 8 days. Max 2 personal cards per 65 days. Max 1 business card per 95 days.

  • Get Same Card Again: Citi allows getting same card again (even if card is still open) as long as you follow the 24 month rule and velocity rules (above).

  • Hard inquiries DO NOT combine into 1 when approved same day

Check application status here.
If denied, call reconsideration here:800-695-5171 (personal); 800-763-9795 (business)
If reconsideration # doesn’t work, try the Citi Credit Card Executive Office: 423-477-6858

Bank of America Application Tips

  • 2/3/4 Rule: Max 2 consumer cards per rolling 2 months, 3 per rolling 12 months, and 4 per rolling 24 months.
  • 5 card limit: You will not get approved for a new consumer card if you already have 5 consumer BOA cards open

  • Get Same Card Again: With some BOA cards, must wait 24 months after either opening or cancelling, depending upon the card.

  • Hard inquiries are usually combined into 1 when initiated within 30 days but there have been reports of TransUnion not combining.


Click here to check your application status
If denied, call reconsideration here: 800-354-0401 (8am-7pm ET Mon-Fri); 866-695-6598 (business cards);

Barclays Application Tips


  • 6/24 Rule Arrival+ Only: Difficult (but not impossible) to get approved for Arrival+ if you've opened 6 or more cards with any bank in past 24 months.

  • Get Same Card Again: Must wait at least 6 months after cancelling previous card (with some accounts Barclays requires waiting 24 months).

  • Hard inquiries are combined into 1 when approved same day. Most inquiries issued through TransUnion.


Consumer: Click here to check your application status
Business cards: Click here
If denied, call reconsideration here: 866-408-4064

Capital One Application Tips


  • 6 month rule: Must wait 6 months after applying for a Capital One card before applying for another one.

  • 2 card limit: You can have at most 2 Capital One consumer cards

  • Get Same Card Again: There is no known rule against getting the same card and bonus again even if you still have the card open.

  • Hard inquiries usually get issued through all 3 credit bureaus


To check application status, call (800) 903-9177 or (877) 277-5901
If denied, call reconsideration here: (800) 625-7866

Discover Application Tips


  • 2 card limit: You can have a maximum of 2 Discover cards.

  • 12 month rule: Must wait just over 12 months after previous card was opened before applying for another Discover card.

  • Get Same Card Again: No known rules against getting same card & bonus again.


Click here to check your application status
If denied, call reconsideration here: 888-676-3695

TD Bank Application Tips


Call (888) 561-8861 to check your application status

US Bank Application Tips


  • Get Same Card Again: No known rules against getting same card & bonus again.

  • Hard inquiries may be combined into 1 when approved same day.


Call (800) 947-1444 to check your application status.
If denied, call reconsideration here: 800-947-1444 or 800-685-7680

Wells Fargo Application Tips


  • Bank first: Wells Fargo usually requires having a bank account open before you can apply for a credit card.

  • 16 month rule: Limit of one signup bonus per 16 months

  • Get Same Card Again: No known rules against getting same card & bonus again.

  • Hard inquiries are combined into 1 when approved same day.


Check application status here.
If denied, call reconsideration here: 1-866-412-5956

Under certain circumstances consumer Visa cards don't work with Plastiq. The following payments are fine:

  • Rent (residential rent, HOA fees, and commercial rent)
  • Taxes & government fees
  • Utilities (electricity, cable, internet, and telecom)
  • Tuition (including daycare and camp)
Payments outside of the above list are subject to the following limitations:

  1. Payments using personal Visa cards issued by Chase are subject to a limit of 20% of your credit limit.
  2. Payments using personal Visa cards from other issuers (other than Capital One or Wells Fargo) will code as a cash advance. That means you’d incur cash advance fees and wouldn’t earn any credit card rewards.
  3. The following types of Visa cards are not affected by these changes: Capital One personal Visa cards, Wells Fargo personal Visa cards, Visa business credit cards, Visa corporate, debit and prepaid gift cards.
In order to meet minimum spend requirements, people often look for options to increase spend in ways that result in getting the money back. These techniques are often referred to as "manufacturing spend". American Express has terms in their welcome offers that exclude some manufactured spend techniques from counting towards the minimum spend requirements for the welcome bonus. For example, most new cardmember bonuses have terms like this:
Eligible purchases to meet the Threshold Amount of this offer do NOT include fees or interest charges, balance transfers, cash advances, purchase of travelers checks, purchase or reloading of prepaid cards, purchases of gift cards, person-to-person payments, or other cash equivalents.
That said, many techniques for meeting minimum spend are perfectly fine. Here are some techniques that are safe for meeting Amex minimum spend requirements (click each link for more information):
Marriott Bonvoy credit cards are issued by both Chase and American Express.  If you're interested in signing up for more than one Chase and/or Amex Marriott card, it's important to consider the complex rules they have put in place:

Last updated on March 31st, 2019

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I was nervous to do this because I have 0 status with US Airways and I’m platinum with AA. Do you think If I would have run for Gold with US it would have combined with AA plat to become Exec Plat? I don’t know; Also, I was debating it and I came to the conclusion I don’t fly enough paid fares to really take advantage of Exec Plat. status. So I did 2 of these red-eye runs on US Airways with my AA plat. number just to set me up to retain status this year. I was upgraded 3/4 times, and the 100% bonus on miles flown was a great boast to my account.

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Congrats!!! Sounds a very fun experience.

Cardbeagle
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Congrats, especially on cutting it so close. Mrs. CB will get hers by the end of Feb. Then the mis-communications with US will be worth it.

Sandy
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Congrats! This is awesome!

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