Office Depot discontinues Vanilla Reload cards

Ever since May when I published “One card to rule them all,” I’ve received emails and tweets about once a week from different people with similar stories.  Almost all said that an Office Depot manager told them that Office Depot was no longer selling Vanilla Reload cards.  Each time I would run out to my local Office Depot and find the shelves still well stocked with the cards.  So, when JeffTheWanderer reported the same story a couple of weeks ago, I wasn’t too concerned.  This time, though, the story seems to be for real…

Last night, Travel By Points reported the following via Twitter:

Well-stocked OD pulled all Vanilla Reloads today after corporate notice. Mgr thinks it is nationwide. Hope not. … was there last night, full of them. Mom went tonight, all pulled. I didn’t believe her so I stopped by and confirmed myself… mgr quoted fraud and also IRS issues (biz owners paying employees with prepaids to avoid taxes).

Then, today, Toms FF Stuff reported:

@FrequentMiler @travelbypoints Vanilla Reloads are pulled. Tried today and manager brought out a memo to all stores to pull this morning.

I then called my local Office Depot and heard the same story.  They had received a memo stating that they would no longer stock Vanilla Reload cards.  I have since contacted both Office Depot and Incomm (the company that produces Vanilla Reload cards) to ask for their official stories.  I’ll report more when I hear back from them.

Why?

You might wonder why Office Depot would stop selling these cards.  The most likely reason (and the one that has been told to people asking) is that there has simply been too much fraud associated with these cards.  See “When thieves steal our points.”  It’s sad when crooks interfere with great point earning schemes!

Will they restock?

Since we haven’t heard an official story directly from Office Depot or Incomm yet, we can still hope that the memo we’ve heard about is incorrect or incomplete.  There’s always the possibility that Office Depot will restock with a new version of Vanilla Reload cards that are somehow more secure.  Do I think that will happen?  No, but one can always hope.

Alternatives

If you were counting on these cards, don’t worry, there are plenty of good alternatives.  On Monday I’ll publish some new findings, but for now consider the following:

  • Other stores besides Office Depot still sell Vanilla Reload cards.  However, it takes a bit more work to find ones that take credit cards.  For example, while many Walgreen store registers are hard coded to not accept credit cards for these purchases, some do allow it.  If it doesn’t work at one store, try another.  To find cards that get bonus points at drug stores, grocery stores, and so on, please see “Best Category Bonuses.”
  • It is still possible to get 5 Ultimate Rewards points per dollar!  Please see the “The 5X everywhere backup plan“.

Please stay tuned for more on Monday.  There are plenty of great opportunities still to be had!

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Ollie
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Ollie

🙁

TravelGuide37
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TravelGuide37

Oh well…on to the next one and the cat and mouse game continues.

LG
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LG

Fantastic while it lasted. Here’s hoping we’ll see fewer posts with 10+ credit card affiliate links on the other blogs. In the end, it was too easy and too lucrative to last long.

Anon
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Anon

Wow, thank you for the heads up. Was waiting for my next churn to apply for Ink, probably not worth it anymore.

K
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K

I just called my local OD store and they said they have discontinued selling the Vanilla card and those are discontinued for good 🙁

…I was just due to restock on Vanilla cards, really sad news! 🙁 Looking forward to your post for other options. Using a Hilton Card to buy those is not nearly as good… esp for us who prefer the INk Bold spend. Thank you for breaking the news!

sanjay
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sanjay

Yes the manager in Chicago told me the same thing. It is pulled out of all Office Depot stores nationwide. He said too many people come there with chase cards and there are too many frauds.

Faye
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Faye

My OD in Niles, IL went one step further today: they pulled all the MC/Visa giftcards! And local Walgreens said ‘cash only’ for Reloads. No credit, no debit.

Hugo
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Hugo

I dont think this is true. I live in SoFla and all my OD have vanilla cards and they all take cc. I bought 4 yesterday without any issues

FrequentMiler
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Hugo: they seem to mostly have been pulled this morning. Call and ask if they have them

ashley
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ashley

Hugo,which OD in SoFla they still have the cards

Milezjunkie
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Milezjunkie

As long as OD still sell Visa and Amex $500 cards that I can use with AP I’m good. Keep in mind, CVS sells VR cards so if you buy those with a $500 Visa gift card it’s only $3.95 to liquidate. Before BB it cost $2-$4 to use the ATM to liquidate a $500 VR. Now loading the VR onto BB it’s free so you only have the $3.95 expense to cash out, and $1 more for the original card since gift cards are $4.95. Still a great deal!

Hugo
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Hugo

Broward….ones in FLL and Pompano. Even Walgreens off Oakland Park and I95 accepts cc. My friend is gonna go now to see if its true

Tom
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Tom

Bought 2 around 11 am this morning in stl

colleen
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colleen

OD Naples still selling via cc. Just ran there when I read the post! Mgr did ask for ID, though.

David
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David

Just went to Local OD that i have a stash hidden 10 min ago in Dallas(4 locations within 5 minutes with stacks). But the signs are off(only regular amex gC).

Tried to buy 3K, needed mgmt override, mgmer who sold me 3K last week said they had to pull all and asked me where I got them. He said he got a memo this morning for ALL OD that they wont sell VR anymore. No reason given.

You can potentially still buy them, if you have hidden stash as they still go through in system, just that mgers know not to approve/override and will take them away.

David
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David

big disappointment, might have to resort to buying their regular amex GCs

WakeUp
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WakeUp

@FM – Are you completely brain dead or just plain stupid?

bald guy
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bald guy

Just purchased three vr cards that management missed on a secondary end cap. Main stash was completely empty. New cashier asked for help while another employee guided him. They said that weren’t supposed to sell them anymore, but that still rang up just fine. Last week there were about 200 on the rack. The more senior employee said they pulled them because too many people were buying them for the points. Didn’t say anything about fraud and didn’t ask for my ID. Was nice while it lasted.

Mark
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Mark

@David – thanks for hiding all the reloads in Dallas a-hole.

Dave
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Dave

FM, I have a question regarding Target AMEX. I have $500 on the temp card, and I just received my permanent card. How can I tranfer the funds from the temp card to the permanent one? Just take it to Target?

FrequentMiler
Guest

Dave: The money from the temp Amex should appear automatically on the permanent one. Have you activated the permanent card yet? If so, just log into your account and you should see the money there

ashley
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ashley

Thanks Hugo keep me posted

RkToledo
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RkToledo

@david from a fellow Dallas resident, you are a scumbag. Hiding vanilla, buying 3k at a time. It’s people like you that this deal has been terminated. a-hole.

FrequentMiler
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Please, everyone, keep the conversation civil. I don’t usually censor comments, but I will do so if this gets out of hand.

Dave
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Dave

FM, so the temporary card becomes a useless piece of plastic?

FrequentMiler
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Dave: I’m not sure about that. You might be able to spend from the temporary card too (against the same balance). I’m just not totally sure. I think I cut up my temporary card once the permanent card came.

WishyAnand
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WishyAnand

Moral of the story:

Get the Ink card and a few other most useful 5x rewards ones now instead of waiting to apply the next time a deal like this comes around!

3 weeks since applying for Ink and still waiting 🙁

Feel even worse for those who waited to apply for the 5k spend Ink offer since they won’t even get 25k after first purchase.

steven
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steven

@FM, I use SPG card to fund $500 target americanexpress, can I get points from this transaction?

JP2
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the OD closest to me in the Metro ATL area pulled them due to the memo. Sounds like it might be nationwide.

Grant Thomas
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Grant Thomas

I went to my local OD in SoCal this morning and was able to buy a $500 Amex prepaid and a $450 VR, cashier was very friendly and rang it up, no problem 🙂

David
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David

@RkToledo and Mark,

I only hid a couple but regular shelf still had plenty as of last week of the one location I frequent. If you are in Dallas, then you should know its not hard to find. I have seen them stacked in 4 OD location out of 6 that I have attempted to look for. They are plentiful in Dallas. If you cant find them, you have not looked hard enough or you just have bad luck. Of the 4 location with VR, they total about about 100K worth. So plenty for everyone. Well, at least until now with the national block.

K
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K

Grant – where in SoCal did you go? Anywhere in LA by any chance? Would be interested to visit the store you went to. Do you mind sharing the address?

Grant Thomas
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Grant Thomas

@K, its down in Irvine, on Jamboree, but i went in at 9:01am this morning right after they opened, so they might have had time to read their memos. Good timing on my part 🙂

Matt
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Matt

It was just a matter of time. Too much hype, too much publicity, etc. And especially w/ 5x thru Ink/OD…that’s not sustainable.

For me and my needs…hope to find Vanilla Reloads at 1x payable by CC. That’s all I need, and I’ll be set for years of churning.

glen
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glen

Bought 10K in reloads from 2 different stores on Friday, but did not try today (Saturday). Will definitely go looking on Sunday!

Dan
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Dan

The IRS excuse makes no sense to me. It is not OD’s problem if employers tried using reload cards to pay their employees unless OD got strong armed by the IRS directly which I find hard to believe. Furthermore, it would be incredibly dumb for someone to try and use reload cards to avoid employment taxes unless they used unreported cash in which case why not just use the unreported cash to pay the employees?

In any event, I am not surprised. I have been personally told and read the same thing from others that there was a lot of CC fraud associated with these reload cards.

Is this a failing of OD CC fraud prevention? I hope so otherwise this story will end up repeating itself with other retailers.

Missy
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Missy

So I saw the news on this board and jumped out of my bed to run to my local OD! They still sell Vanilla Reload. I went crazy and bought a few. My store is in a bad neighborhood, and I guess there are not too many mile collectors out here. I, however, have no idea what to do with them and how to use them. Do I need to buy just a regular card and load the numbers from under scratched area? Or can please somebody explain in a simple way? Thanks!

victor
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victor

just went to my local store and he showed me the message. the are to pull them tomorrow. had about 50, i picked up 20 to max out for the month. they are to replace with some type of amex in the message but no other details and does not know when. cards and ads to be pulled tomorrow.

victor
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victor

missy you need a loadedble card to load them onto. derve, amex prepaid, vanilla, or bluebird. sign up for one. bluebird is easiest to use but 7-10 days out from order. also you mentioned scratched off area, it was still covered when you bought? If not someone else can use your funds.

DrSifu
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DrSifu

Still available in San Diego as of 2 minutes ago.

Ellen
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Ellen

Missy , sorry if i seen rude, how in the world you run and buy these cards without even knowing what they are for?

Lucy
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Lucy

It is time you start a paid subscription blog or site, whatever new ideas you come up with are only going to make the infamous D and other incompetent bloggers more and more famous using your ideas? If you decide to go this route, limit the number of subscribers and screen all before approving membership, this way you keep all the copy cats bloggers out and your small group can benefit from deals that last for a while,
ill be your first paid subscriber

cindy
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cindy

i tried 10 OD in bay area last weekend. none of them have vanilla. I even tried 50 miles away. It seem that there are too many point collectors in bay area. It is eventually dead.

Missy
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Missy

Victor, thank you. I was buying Vanilla Visa Prepaid (with $4.95 fee) before, but the back of the card says “non reloadable”. I have prepaid AmEx cards, not sure if those are suitable for the reload. And which card is free to use? Bluebird?

JoC
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JoC

Yes, I hear the word “discontinue” from a couple of the OD stores today.

Matt
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Matt

Victor: picking up 20 for the month?? It is exactly people like YOU who destroy deals for the rest of us. No sense about sustainability!! How many white rhinos are there?? I bet you wouldn’t care, you’d just be wondering why there aren’t after you killed a 1000.

Missy
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Missy

Ellen, I know, it doesn`t have sense, but you guys know what you are doing, and besides of these reload cards, I get my biz class flights on points, so I decided to get them first and figure out on how to use them later.

yyyccclll
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yyyccclll

No matter what happen, just want to say thank you, FM.

Victor
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Victor

Matt. It is over. There are still cards there I could have purchased but if I did not buy they would be pulled from shelf. This is not the normal purchase but I figure what is there to lose tonight. The manager me ruined it to me when I walked in as I got to know him. I am the one who asked the store to order them last month. They ordered 100 for me.

webazoid
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Watch the turmoil that’s going on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6R5cEEqXpk

FrequentMiler
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webazoid: I didn’t watch that until now. Hilarious! Did you make that video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6R5cEEqXpk

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

I am so sad all to hear this devastating news 🙁 I have been making a killing on all this vanillas. I just hope that OD is coming out with a newer and better vanilla…I JUST LOVE THESE VANILLAS TOO MUCH to have to lose them forever.

dvh
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dvh

Still plenty here. Just bought 2 VR at OD and 2 VR at CVS.

Larry Ordway
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Larry Ordway

Just checked my local OD, all of the rack.

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

You guys are still giving me some hope…and I called around some OD around my area…some pulled them from the shelves and some still carry them…what the heck is going on here? I called 5 stores, 2 pulled them and 3 still carries them…Can I still hope that this scheme is not dead?

rooperT
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rooperT

Thank goodness, now we can actually get back to more interesting stuff.

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

I am going to cry 🙁 if this scheme is dead

Preacher7
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Preacher7

Is this all part of the fiscal cliff?

FrequentMiler
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Preacher7: Best comment of the night 🙂

Peter
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Peter

Visited 3 ODs in Tampa Bay which these stores usually carry 30 – 40 Bean cards daily ==> ALL Gone 🙁

I asked why and was told it is the direction from HQ and all Bean cards were removed on 11/8/12 :(:(:(:(

dvh
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dvh

Does anyone know how to get around the WF to BB $100/day limit?

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

dvf, get multiple cards in different people’s name…I have two, one in my name and one in my wife’s name…2K max limit per day for me 🙂

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

however, the best funding source for me was from the vanillas… and they may all be gone forever,not just OD 🙁

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

dvh, did anyone say anything to you when you bought the VR from OD and CVS? Can anyone confirm that some stores will still sell these?

dvh
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dvh

Nope, not a word. I bought a Paypal prepaid card too at CVS with CC.

Jerry
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As Don Meridith used to sing ” turn out the lights, the party`s over ” I bought 2 cards at 2 different OD`s on Thursday.

c’est la vie

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

I called two more OD stores…both pulled them out…7 stores called…4 stores pulled them and 3 still has them…I am losing hope here 🙁 …confirmed with the store that pulled them is from HQ memo

FMfan
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FMfan

Since this really appears to be dead… I cannot find one anymore, Maybe you should start talking about alternatives and end all this bean talk!

Preacher7
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Preacher7

Thx, Fm.

txnatv
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txnatv

Just got back from visit to 2 OD’s near me where I usually buy my reloads. First one had all reloads and amex prepaid cards removed from gift card center but were now in their own Amex rack nearby. However, there was a sign where they used to be saying OD allows purchase of a vanilla reload up to $200 with credit/debit card and up to $500 with cash. This was not there two days ago. I grabbed one reload, went to the counter and asked for $500 to be loaded to see what would happen. Cashier rang it up using my Ink Bold and it went thru no questions, no mgr, no prob. Went to second OD and had similar experience except the reloads were where they usually are in the gift card center but were paper copies instead, and lots of them. I took one to the counter and the cashier took it to a manager who pulled the actual card from a locked cabinet behind the counter, gave it to the cashier and he rang me up for $500 on my cc. I’m not sure when they started this, but it wasn’t that way when I was there two weeks ago. So these OD’s either didn’t get the memo yet, got a different memo, or have their own interpretation of it, I don’t know. I’m not one to ask questions when somthing works, just took my cards and left 😉

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

The AMX Target 5X alternative is too slow and costly in my opinion compared to the vanillas…what else can compare to the vanillas?

Serion
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Serion

The OD in the Birmingham, AL have pulled all of them. One said they have been discontinued. The other just thought they were out of them. (doubtful since they’ve never ran out before)

Something odd is going on though. If it’s fraud, why don’t the stores ask for cash like many of the other places carrying them now?

MileageUpdate
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Its not fraud because you can turn around and buy a regular vanilla GC for using your ink card. Its a joke, they are pissed that people are gaining a lot of points.

Ron
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Ron

Visited 6 ODs in Bay Area today – all but one out – and the one that still had a few said cash only.

Chris D.
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Chris D.

@Serion: Thanks for the update on Birmingham. Good to know someone else in this area is in the points game. 🙂

gregorygrady
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gregorygrady

@webazoid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6R5cEEqXpk
LOL, that is by far the best Hitler spoof video I’ve ever seen, based on the Vanilla Reload fiasco!!! I love it!!!!

Rob
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Rob

FM: It has been an honor to partake in this game with you.

I do believe you need to start a subscription service and filter out other bloggers. It seemed wrong that you put all this effort into it just to see Darius and FTG and others pump it so much to their referral links. I have supported you through your links because I enjoy your information. I would most definitely support you if you had a subscription based service without other bloggers.

Eventually referral income will dry up. You need to think about diversifying your revenue stream.

David
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David

Great Video!!! Fits in perfectly with the scene! Love it!

FM, looking to seeing your post on Monday on alternatives!

BothofUs2
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BothofUs2

@webazoid That spoof was hilarious. I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time, thanks for that!

David
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David

@ Rob and FM,

I totally agree. I have no problem with a subscription service. I love your complex posts on how to really make a deal that no one else thinks of and I really hate what everyone is doing with bluebird right now. The same stuff over and over again. Your blog is the first one I read.

K
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K

FM – can you use the GreenDot loadable cards to load the BlueBird or any of the netspend cards?

Also – any experience with buying GreenDot cards with CC? Would be curious to hear your experience with these.

TravelWithMiles
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@Webazoid: What an epic video. Had me literally LOL.

As long as they still have the $500 Visa / MC GCs at OD the points train will roll on. The trick will be converting those into Vanilla reloads by finding a local retailer that will accept MC/Visa for them. And your costs will go up by a little more, because you will have fees of $4.95+$3.95 per five hundred instead of just $3.95 and it adds to the hassle factor by visiting 2 merchants instead of 1.

Mike
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Mike

@txnatv, OD office manager Monterey California said the same thing to me about 200$ max credit card load, 500$ max with cash. She told me this is the new policy, nationwide. 200$ reloads with ink is hardly worth it, IMO.

Joshua
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Joshua

As of today around 4:30pm still alive in my area. I will check back tomorrow because apparently the notice said they were to be off the shelves by Sunday Nov. 11. Will report back.

gregorygrady
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gregorygrady

To all the posters who would like a private subscription service, what exactly makes you think the other bloggers wouldn’t simply sign up for it as well, and still go on ahead and ruin all the great ideas that FM comes up with? Even if he vets the subscribers to eliminate the bloggers, they could simply have relatives or friends subscribe. If FM will let you in without knowing you, he will also most likely let bloggers in unknowingly.

gregorygrady
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gregorygrady

To add to my post above, if you REALLY like FM’s work, you REALLY SHOULD apply for CCs via his links in order to help support him. Although personally I refuse to even do that as any sort of CC referral money to these bloggers just eggs them on to find, publish, and ruin even more deals, exactly like what happened with the Office Depot Vanilla Reload deal today.

JoC
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JoC

copied from Lucky’s comment section

looks like u’ve been spotted in berlin lucky. lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6R5cEEqXpk

Lawrence
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Lawrence

not sure of the point of the Target AMEX? Just that you can use ATM to pull money out and pay your cc bill? why not just buy the non reloadable cards at OD and use them and toss them?

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

before Bluebird, I had a great system of cashing out between 4k to 4.5 Vanillas via Netspend and MyVanilla very quickly with minimal fees…50 cents for MyVanilla and $2.50 for Netspend…Now it appears that is over 🙁

ElTurk
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ElTurk

gregorygrady is right. These ideas can’t exactly be patented. And copyright protection won’t prevent anyone from copying the idea.

JoC
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JoC

@ frequentmiler

Can I use the Amex ppd target card on stores outside of target?

Grant
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Grant

@Lawrence, its just like the Amex prepaid cards before Bluebird came out except you dont need VR cards to load up. It is probably the only way to get 5x point with ink if a CVS or Walgreens wont let you purchase VR with a CC.

Grant
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Grant

@JoC, yes you can use it anywhere AMEX is accepted, not only at Target.

OceanBreezes
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OceanBreezes

Darn, I just activated by Ink Plus today. Went to 3 ODs – all out; came home to this blog post. I would support a subscription service.

Lawrence
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Lawrence

@Grant – that’s my point. Why do I need Target if I can go to OD and buy the Vanilla Visa or Prepaid Amex and get 5x (or even 1x) at OD?

why should I buy a $500 card (prepaid Visa) at OD using the Bold and bother anything with Target. I can just go and spend it…

JoC
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JoC

To me, the Amex target card is better because of the ATM function, while a regular ppd visa at OD doesnt.

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

Lawrence…so that you can cash out…so that you can simulate spending a lot of money without actually buying something real. If I was going to do this, I would get a total of 4 cards( 2 for me and 2 for my wife) and load a total of $1000 a day to each card with the gift cards and get a total of $1600 a day at the ATM to pay my Inks. However, the AMEX Target scheme would be way slower and harder compared to my system or to the Bluebird system.

Lawrence
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Lawrence

I guess with work/personal spending, cashing out isn’t necessary for me.

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

This AMEX Target scheme would require me to load all four cards and withdraw daily to simulate my system or the Bluebird system…which would require thie AMEX Target scheme to be a lot of work and a lot more fees and time invested!!

MeLovesVanilla
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MeLovesVanilla

You can use your other rewards-earning credit card to put your work/personal spending, which would give you more points combined…points earned from your other rewards earning credit cards for your work/personal spending and points from the AMEX Target Scheme

T3pleShot
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T3pleShot

I am fine with the vanilla pull. it was getting way too easy for “folks” to earn miles.

Nat Arem
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Nat Arem

I like how people get upset over a classic “Tragedy of the Commons” situation. It’s how things work. This isn’t a small group of people that you can control. Thousands and thousands of people have these credits cards, people are going to take advantage of the great deals while they can because someone else is going to and they might as well get theirs while they can. Personally I didn’t go nuts but that’s just because the ODs around me didn’t have the VRs. Otherwise I really don’t care to show restraint except for the amount that I need to show in order to avoid having Chase ban my account. Otherwise, the game is on.

webazoid
Guest

FM: Nope, i didn’t make it. some guy on FT posted link.

Phil
Guest

The Walgreens in my area still don’t have the VR cards. 🙁

Missy
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Missy

When I bought mine today, a rep was so excited about me buying that much, she said that they would do “a store goal for today” and that she has never seen anybody to buy that much. She thought I was rich to charge $3K. Again, the store is in mixed communities, so most likely not too many people are in the game. Wondering if they will have them tomorrow.

TravelBloggerBuzz
Guest

I am stealing the comment about the fiscal cliff, thank you!