Toward hacking Asia Miles: the unified oneworld award chart

In my recent post “Searching for business class sweet-spots in Iberia’s OneWorld award chart,” I wrote “I haven’t yet compared Iberia Avios awards to those available from other OneWorld airlines such as Cathay Pacific.”  Well, now that Cathay Pacific is out with a new 60K signup offer, it’s time to take a look.

Cathay Pacific offers two different award charts depending upon how many non-Cathay OneWorld partners you fly.  If your itinerary includes more than one OneWorld partner, not counting Cathay Pacific itself, then you use the “oneworld Multi-carrier Awards chart.”  If your itinerary includes one or zero OneWorld partners, then you use the “Standard Awards” chart.

Cathay Pacific Asia Miles Standard Awards Chart

This is the Asia Miles “Standard Awards” chart.  This award chart applies when you include just one partner airline with or without Cathay Pacific or Cathay Dragon; or when you fly Cathay Pacific and/or Cathay Dragon without any partners.  Note that the distance bands are based on one-way distances even for round-trip awards.

Cathay Pacific Asia Miles oneworld Multi-carrier Awards Chart

This is the Asia Miles oneworld Multi-carrier Awards chart.  This chart is in effect when you include 2 or more oneworld alliance partners (or 3 or more if counting Cathay itself).  On this chart, distance bands are based on total round-trip distance.

Everything you need to know

A number of good posts have been published on other blogs about Cathay Pacific award sweet-spots.  Rather than duplicate that information, I’ll simply point you to a few useful posts:

All of these guides point out that Cathay’s award charts are especially nice for long distance flights.  Richard Kerr’s post does a great job of detailing a really neat twist: one-way awards are usually priced not by segment, but by the distance between the origin and destination.  This makes for some nice hacking possibilities!  Unfortunately, Ian Snyder found that not all one-way itineraries priced this way.  Still, I was able to prove the idea by pricing out using Cathay miles to book a one-way Alaska Airlines flight from Detroit to Denver, routed through Seattle.  Sure enough, it priced based on the direct distance between Detroit and Denver.  This is a meaningless example since other airlines offer the same flight for fewer miles, but it helps prove the point.

Cathay prices this one-way award (Detroit to Seattle to Denver) the same as a non-stop from Detroit to Denver. Image courtesy of Great Circle Mapper.

The Unified Award Chart

As I read through the other posts about Cathay Pacific Asia Miles award sweet spots, I kept wondering how these same awards would price on other oneworld alliance carriers.  Specifically, how would other distance based programs like British Airways and Iberia price these awards?

Well, I couldn’t really compare all possible awards across programs, but I could compare their award charts.  So I did.  I created a new resource called Frequent Miler’s Unified OneWorld Distance Based Award Chart.  In the future I plan to add additional programs, but for now this award chart includes both Cathay Pacific charts, Iberia’s OneWorld chart, and both British Airways and Iberia’s peak and off-peak award charts.

And, really, there are two unified charts: one is for one-way awards and the other is for round-trip.  The round-trip tab includes all one-way award prices, doubled, where appropriate.

Price Per Mile

In order to compare award prices across distance bands, I compute “Price Per Mile”. This is the award price (number of miles required for the award) divided by the mean distance of the distance band. For example, when the distance band is between 1152 and 2000 miles, then the mean distance is half way between: 1,576 miles. And so, if the price in miles is 20,000, then the Per Mile Price = 20,000 / 1,576 = 13.

I used Google Docs conditional formatting feature to automatically shade green the lowest per mile prices, and to shade red the highest per mile prices.

One-Way Distance Based Awards

Here’s a snapshot of the middle of the one-way unified chart:

As you can see above, the best economy awards in this mid-distance part of the chart are Iberia and BA awards which cost 4 to 5 Avios per mile flown.  Note that these awards are limited to single segments and will usually cost more if multiple segments are included (however, sometimes they are cheaper with multiple segments. See: Hacking Avios).

For business class flights, a few specific awards really stand out: Iberia Off-Peak between 2001 and 3000 miles and between 3001 and 4000 miles (these are for Iberia operated flights only).  BA prices in these bands are only slightly higher and BA can be used to book any oneworld carrier at these prices.

Note that Cathay doesn’t look too good on this part of the chart until you get down to the 2501 to 5000 mile band where Cathay charges only 45,000 miles in business class.  That’s pretty darn good especially when you consider that it’s possible to fly to Europe from the eastern US for fewer than 5,000 miles.

I’ll leave it to the reader to click through to the spreadsheet to see that it’s true: Cathay’s award chart looks better and better as you get to longer and longer distance flights.  That said, BA and Iberia are right there with Cathay all the way to the bottom of the chart.  The difference, of course, is that Cathay allows multiple segments for the same price.

Round-Trip Distance Based Awards

Here’s a snapshot of the middle of the round-trip unified chart:

Here you can see again that Iberia and BA dominate the best economy prices per mile.  In business class and first class, though, Cathay does pretty well, especially as you get to longer distances.  Cathay’s OneWorld chart is especially good for round-trips covering 7,501 to 9,000 miles (85K miles for business class, 115K for first class) and for round-trips covering 9,001 to 10,000 miles (95K miles for business class, 130K miles for first class).  And Cathay’s Standard chart is even better for round-trips covering 5002 to 10,000 miles (80K miles for business class, 120K for first class).

Since Iberia and BA awards are priced separately per segment, they don’t really offer a fair comparison to Cathay Pacific.  Iberia’s OneWorld chart, though, is priced by the entire length of the trip so it is a better comparison.  And when I compare Iberia’s OneWorld chart to Cathay’s charts, the pattern is clear: Iberia is better for short distance awards (see: From 11K RT on American: A sweet spot for North American flight redemptions) and Cathay is better for long distance.

Summary

I’ve created a new unified OneWorld award chart to make it easy to compare award prices across British Airways, Cathay Pacific, and Iberia (and more to come in the future).  Through this chart, we can find the following patterns:

  • Iberia Avios are cheapest when flying Iberia itself
  • BA Avios are usually cheapest when flying any carrier non-stop in economy
  • When flying multiple segments one-way, Cathay’s Standard awards are usually best
  • When flying round-trip short distances with multiple segments, Iberia OneWorld awards are usually best
  • When flying round-trip long distance with multiple segments, Cathay awards (Standard or OneWorld) are usually best.

All of this ignores significant differences in the programs such as award fees, how easy it is to book awards, how cheaply awards can be changed, etc.  But hopefully we’ve provided a useful tool and summary for getting started.

Please also see these posts about BA and Iberia Avios:

And this post about another great use for Cathay Pacific miles:

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16 Comments on "Toward hacking Asia Miles: the unified oneworld award chart"

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Sergey
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Hmm, why no BAEC partner awards included? You can redeem Avios on Cathay flights, for example. Pricing differs from flights on BAEC.

james
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i have lots of Ultimate Rewards points. can those points get transferred to Star Aliiance?

i know how to book flights directly on Chase Ultimate website or transfer directly to United , Southwest etc.

But , I have no idea where to start to book flights at One Star or Star Alliance website with my Ultimate Reward points. Where would you recommend i start?

Matt
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Regarding some one-ways being priced by origin-destination distance vs segment by segment: is it possible that Richard has fallen into the trap that Enoch writes about here?

http://pointmetotheplane.boardingarea.com/2016/12/28/asia-miles-mistake/

I think I both like Asia Miles and have used them more than the average person in the game, and have never had the luck to enjoy this one-way pricing phenomenon. If (as Enoch says) the online booking engine sometimes initially shows the theoretically minimum price of a nonstop flight for a connecting itinerary, and only switches to the actual higher price based on distance of all segments once you’ve clicked farther through (which requires having the higher amount of miles in your account), then to me the only proof that this works is if you’re able to actually TICKET an itinerary for the lower mileage.

Have you (or anyone) been able to book a ticket at the lower nonstop calculation, or are you using the initial display of miles online as proof? I’m not trying to be a contrarian and would love for this to be a real loophole, but it doesn’t seem like it’s legit to me.

Richard
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Online booking engine is definitely tricky; best example anyone can easily repeat is to search US-KEF. The engine will route you through London and quote 45k which is the same price as just US-LON. However once you get to the final screen it goes up to 70k. The trick is doing these bookings on the phone as IME it seems the agents also get this initial pricing, but continue on to the final booking process with that price still quoted.

Matt
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Interesting, and thanks for the comment! That still sounds like a potential nightmare to me, though. I can imagine it going like this: see the online search misprice at the lower mileage cost. Call in, agent quotes the same lower price, put award on hold if possible. Transfer points, points post. Call back, agent still quotes lower price, then tries to book it and…ERROR. Computer can’t book at that rate, now says higher price.

They say to be the data point you want to see, so i’ll report back if i’m ever in the position to give this a shot and test it conclusively.

Edit- Richard, forgot to ask: Have you actually booked/ticketed an award where you got away with the lower pricing or it’s still just theory for you?

Lea
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I was pricing an award for a friend last year – PVG-HKG-ORD-BNA. The Asia Miles agent said it would take two awards because there was more than connection point. That’s a huge disadvantage for those of us who don’t live in a city served by Cathay.

Hopeful
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That is a good call. I get caught up on that when looking at obscure/international partner bookings like Singapore/Korean/Cathay, as a small city flyer.

Christian
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Does Cathay release more than one first class seat at saver level to Asia Miles members far in advance? The single seat availability with partners is only that single seat, which is rough for couples.

Carol
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Thanks Greg!

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