40K to Far Away: The Votes are In


The adventure began Wednesday October 2nd.  Nick, Stephen, and I met up in Washington DC to kick off the 40K to Far Away challenge.  Our goal?  Go as far as possible.  Our budget?  40,000 points and $400.  Who picked the winner?  You did.

Each of us was assigned a transferable points currency.  We were allowed to use up to 40,000 points, as follows:

  • Greg the Frequent Miler (AKA me): 40,000 Chase Ultimate Rewards points
  • Nick: 40,000 Citi ThankYou Rewards points
  • Stephen: 40,000 Amex Membership Rewards points

We purposely left the objective unclear.  Readers were given the opportunity to debate who won and why; and a reader poll ultimately decided the winner.

And the winner is…

Who do you think won the 40K to Far Away challenge?

  • Greg (51%, 567 Votes)
  • Stephen (31%, 345 Votes)
  • Nick (19%, 210 Votes)

Total Voters: 1,122

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Results

Distance Results

We each traveled at least this far (estimated distances shown here do not include around town travel):

  • Nick: 19,619 miles 16,061 miles before he went over-budget
  • Greg: 18,037 miles
  • Stephen: 13,394 miles 

Budget Results

  • Nick: Spent 39,500 points (500 under budget) and $670.90 ($270 over budget). Details here.  Before going over budget he spent only 23,500 points and $398.70. Details here.
  • Greg: Spent 40,000 points and $397.08 ($2.92 under budget). Details here.
  • Stephen: Spent 40,000 points and $382.44 ($17.56 under budget). Details here.

Why did we do this?

We expect this to be fun!  And it was a great opportunity to highlight sweet spot awards available through each of the transferable points currencies: Chase Ultimate Rewards, Citi ThankYou Rewards, and Amex Membership Rewards.

In fact, this contest led to some awesome discoveries such as the ability to book flights to Hawaii for only 7,500 Citi ThankYou points, the ability to book super-cheap fares with Chase points, and tricks for finding 5K United awards.  More examples can be found below under the heading “What we’ve learned.”

The Rules

The goal was to use the budget (40K points + $400) to go as far as possible.  How do we measure success?  We don’t know.  We debated whether we should measure distance from origin to destination, but that didn’t seem right.  After all, someone could potentially fly all the way around the world and end up 0 miles from the start.  How about measuring the combined distance of each individual leg?  Maybe, but should we really count it as going far if Stephen rides a merry-go-round 35,000 miles?  Ultimately we decided that we’ll know success when we see it.  And, if we don’t, it will still be fun debating it!

But we did need some rules, so here they are:

  • Beginning with the first mode of transportation, we must account for all costs within the 40K + $400 budget.  This means that we need to track payments for food, airport transfers (not counting the original transfer to get to the starting location), lodging, visas, etc.
  • This is a one-way challenge.  We do not need to return to the starting location.
  • We cannot accept transit/lodging/food help from readers.  In other words, we can accept help in terms of advice, but we can’t accept a ride to the airport, lodging, food, or other types of material assistance from readers.  Note that accepting help from friends or relatives along the way is fine as long as it is the type of thing that would normally happen when traveling.

What we’ve learned

The challenge to come up with the best possible itinerary with 40K points has led us to many interesting discoveries.  Some are brand new.  Others were already known, but are relatively new to us.  Here are some of the gems:

What about the environment?

Flying around the world for no reason other than to declare victory may be fun, but it’s arguably not so good for the environment.  To help mitigate this issue, Frequent Miler (the business) will purchase carbon offsets greater than the amount of damage estimated from our travels.

Media inquiries

Please contact us here: press@frequentmiler.net.

All 40K to Far Away posts:

10 reasons to vote for Greg for #40KFarAway (10/16/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
40K Far Away: Who went farthest? (10/14/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Greg’s visits to Madrid and Dakar #40Kfaraway (10/7/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
The mid-race tally. Who’s leading #40Kfaraway? (10/7/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Greg’s first day of #40K to Far Away adventures (10/4/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Greg’s #40KFarAway Mystery Excursions (10/2/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
40K to Far Away… It’s On! (10/2/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Greg’s #40KFarAway practice: Driving Denali (9/15/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Why Stephen should win #40KFaraway (8/22/2019) by Nick Reyes
Marriott Protea Hotel Kruger Gate Marriott Rewards sweet spot Hunting down a free safari (7/29/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
How to book the cheapest flights with Chase Ultimate Rewards (7/24/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Finding United MileagePlus 5K Awards (7/12/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
The best stopover deals worldwide (7/10/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
My secret weapon #40Kfaraway (7/8/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Around the world in 40K (7/1/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Greg’s Chase Ultimate Rewards battle plans (6/26/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Cruising to a win #40Kfaraway (6/25/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler
Challenge! 40K to Far Away (6/24/2019) by Greg The Frequent Miler

Last updated on October 20th, 2019

About Greg The Frequent Miler

Greg is the owner, founder, and primary author of the Frequent Miler. He earns millions of points and miles each year, mostly without flying, and dedicates this blog to teaching others how to do the same.

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AJS
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AJS

How about a DC send off party?

Parts Unknown
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Parts Unknown

If Stephen rode a merry go round for 35,000 miles I would vote for him.
Will you guys be live blogging or tweeting the adventure? I’d say make a rules exception for WiFi costs & data roaming fees or whatever.

AlexL
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AlexL

Can’t wait!

Greg
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Greg

Is there an end date too? Or is it just however long it takes?

Blue
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Blue

I predict using the one way rule will be key to winning this challenge–and I would suggest at the very least providing the cost in getting back home as part of the voting information.

Tom Mackay
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Tom Mackay

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Nathan
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Nathan

What about wagering? Let the fans make wagers with the money going to a good cause??

Sam
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Sam

Hey Greg, Nick, and Stephen

Can’t wait for the results. Who’s gonna be top the podium?

But….as interesting as this endeavor is, lemme give you personal experience booking flights the past couple of times: if you are able to go seriously points commando, i.e. fly at inconvenient times and multiple stops, for sure you can get great deals booking directly from airlines. But…if you have more restrictions on times of travel, be it dates or times of day, I’ve actually found that the CSR travel website often offers the best value. (Not always of course.) There are NO black out dates, you’re getting miles, and you’re NOT paying taxes. I’m not saying geting better value thru CSR portal happens all the time, but for sure it does happen and most importantly, all readers need reminding to know that they ought to cross check google/flights for the cash/CSR pay with points option against juicymiles pay with points thru the airline. (Of course this assumes they have the CSR. The CSP would of course be less compelling.)

Two expamples just today: my sister booked a flight for her son using ua miles which was cheaper than the cashCSR option. I on the other hand booked a flight today using CSR points for a specific desired itinerary from SFO-MEX-SFO. It was cheaper than any of the itinerary options booked directly with one of the airlines. Cheaper in miles and points, and I earn miles.

Bottom line: One never knows where the best value is until one fully cross checks. And….the CSR truly is a very powerful tool for someone who flies frequently enough as oppopsed to it’s little brother the CSP.

That said…I do envy you commandoes!!! Bon chance!!!

Lukas
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Lukas

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Larry
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Sorry if I missed it in a post but what will the consequence be if you go over the $400 budget? Disqualification or readers decide?

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Stephen Pepper
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Readers will get to decide the winner, so they can certainly keep in mind any kind of penalty for one of us going over budget.

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Debit

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Larry
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Larry

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Blue
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Blue

I predict he is going to Svalbard on SAS,

T. Jones
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T. Jones

If he managed to do Svalbard, I’d give him the win just because.

Captain Greg
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Captain Greg

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Sam
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Sam

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CaveDweller
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CaveDweller

Sam
I agree it’s unreal what these people pass on I think we need a CPA to look @ these odd numbers.

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