No joy from Bonvoy: Ritz cardholders downgraded to Gold

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Update: 10:31pm Eastern 3/4/19: Good news — we’ve received word that this has been fixed. See a full update here: Bonvoy restores joy: Platinum status being reinstated.

Update 7:18pm Eastern 3/4/19: Not much news to report, but we did hear back from our Marriott contact today telling us that they are looking into it and to stay tuned. Additionally, the Marriott Lurker on Flyertalk published this response to questions there about this issue:

This issue has been forwarded to the appropriate team to look into.
We will let you know when we have an update.

Best Regards,

Christina Zhou
Specialist, Social Media
Marriott International

marriott.bonvoychampion@marriott-service.com

Those who have been downgraded may want to consider sending an email to the Marriott Bonvoy Lurker.

Original post text follows:

Last year, we published a unique opportunity to get Platinum status in the new Marriott program via the Ritz-Carlton credit card. At the time, we published that via a new Ritz-Carlton credit card prior to August 18th, 2018, one could secure Platinum status until February 2020. However, over the weekend, many people who had Platinum status via new 2018 Ritz-Carlton credit card accounts have been downgraded to Gold status. This does not fit with what we were told and we are following up with Marriott.

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If you had Platinum from opening a Ritz-Carlton credit card during 2018, you may have been downgraded to Gold this weekend.

The short story is that opening a new Ritz-Carlton credit card during 2018 but before August 18, 2018 would have given you 50-night status in the old Marriott program (called Gold at the time), which would transition to 50-night status in the new program (now called Platinum). See this post for more: [Too Late] Consider getting the Ritz-Carlton card right now.

Those who had opened the Ritz-Carlton card prior to 2018 would have needed to have completed $10,000 in purchases between their anniversary date and August 18, 2018 in order to receive old 50-night status (old Gold) and thereby receive 50-night status (new Platinum) after the merger. In future years, 50-night status (new Platinum) will require $75,000 in purchases on the card.

Many (though not all) new 2018 Ritz-Carlton cardholders saw their status become Platinum after the August 18th merger as expected. As a reminder, this wasn’t really an upgrade in status, just a status level name change: the card offered 50-night status for the first year before the merger, which took on a new name, Platinum, after the merger. However, many of those members have now been downgraded to Gold status (25-night status) in the past few days.

That just does not match what Marriott told us on several separate occasions. Our contacts with Marriott began with David Flueck, Senior Vice President of Global Loyalty, at a Marriott event in April 2018. Contacts with several other people from the leadership team sprouted from that conversation.

For the sake of clarity and transparency, here are direct quotes from an email exchange between Frequent Miler and Marriott that happened in June 2018 (ahead of the merger):

Frequent Miler: I previously learned from you that those who qualify for Gold with the Ritz card before August will get Platinum Elite and those who qualify for Platinum with $75k spend before August will get Platinum Premier. My question is how long that status will last. I assumed through Feb 2020, but a reader was told by a Marriott rep that it would only last this year.  If the rep was right I need to post a retraction ASAP. Thanks for any insight you can provide

Marriott: I have reconfirmed that you are correct. Status would continue through February 2020.

That is one clear example, but it is not the only time we confirmed this via email prior to the merger.

However, many readers are reporting that this has not happened as we were told. Many who opened the Ritz-Carlton credit card in 2018 and transitioned from Gold to Platinum in August 2018 have now lost that Platinum status this weekend unless they had completed 50 nights with Marriott during 2018. Here is one report (out of many) from Twitter:

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In that Tweet, he linked to a Flyertalk thread with more datapoints. We’ve also had readers who have commented on the Ritz-Carlton post linked above as well as in our Marriott Bonvoy Complete Guide and we have received emails from others. We are as surprised as anyone about these status downgrades.

Several readers have reached out directly with their account details. We have now forwarded on several specific cases to our Marriott contacts asking for a response/solution from Marriott, noting that there are many more people affected and that many likely have stays in the coming days and were counting on their elite status benefits. At the moment, this seems to only be affecting those who had newly opened Ritz-Carlton credit card accounts during 2018. I have had the Ritz card for several years and I completed $10,000 in purchases during 2018 to receive “old Gold” status, which transitioned to Platinum. I still have my Platinum status at this point, so I believe this issue is only affecting those who newly opened the Ritz card during 2018Update: Readers commented below shortly after publication that they completed $10K in purchases and their status has been downgraded, so this appears to be affecting everyone who received status from the Ritz card.

We will post an update when we have more information, but we wanted to let readers know that we are aware and that we are following up on it.

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cmh

Even with my RC credit card, I have now been dropped from Platinum down to Silver. Anybody expecting that this error will be fixed? We all get Gold status just by having the card, after all.

William

Keep staying at Marriott’s. You do realize 40% of the people checking in are Plat or higher all want the same 10% of rooms that people actually paid (extra) for or are used for VIP’s in house with sales. Or I tip the desk and act very humble dont ask if my status is on the room because it is and they get sick of saying the same things day in day out. If I want a suite or upgrade I pay upfront and try to negotiate. Glad I moved to Hilton. Very few top tier members not saturated and plenty of upgrades to give out to friendly guests. Enjoy the Frenzy at the desk.

[…] we published a post about problems with Marriott elite status (See: No joy from Bonvoy: Ritz cardholders downgraded to Gold). Specifically, many people had been downgraded from Marriott Platinum (50-night status) to […]

Rob

I am back to platinum and I was credited today with an additional year of platinum. I now have the necessary 10 years for lifetime (but still short on nights).

Josh

Back to platinum elite! Not sure what the issues was but thanks for looking out for us FM.

Ask?

UPDATE — back to Platinum. Either they heard us or it was a glitch….

Pam

not me!

Bulaia44

Are you looking at your app on your phone? I closed the app and reopened it and I’m back to platinum.

Pam

thanks but both desktop & app still have me as Gold. I emailed Marriott earlier & spoke with them on the phone. my status change seemed to show later than others, though, so maybe getting back to Plat will, too? have a stay day after, sure hope so.

vdude83

Emailed and FB messaged them. Hope for the better outcomes!!

SourApple

Same here

jukaks

pinged bonvoy lurker and had my plat status reinstated.

Ryan

My plat status has also been reinstated.

Jules

Same Here, I was downgraded to Gold yesterday, but I checked again couple mins ago and I’m back to Platinum Elite.

Terrance

On what platform is this Bonvoy lurker? How do i do this?

Jenna

Is there anyone here that got their Platinum status reinstated by either calling or tweeting? Marriott contacted me via Twitter but haven’t heard a reply back.

Would be good to know some DP’s. I have several stays coming up and booked some properties with Platinum status in mind.

Nick & Greg, any word back from Marriott? I’m also surprised other major bloggers haven’t posted about this yet. Will sell credit cards all day long but won’t fight to actually help the people they market to. Good on ya for fighting!

William Yip

mine just got reinstated earlier

JoshDG

Did you reach out to anyone in particular? Or did it just happen?

William

It just happened… I have my RC card since May 2018

TMouse

I just checked the app, back to Platinum baby!!!!

CuriousGeorge

No response from Marriott?

Evan

I, too, saw myself downgraded last night from platinum to gold from getting the Ritz card last year in July. There was another forum post put up over from the last few days on flyertalk regarding those that have status matched from United Airlines status to Marriott Platinum being downgraded to gold as well this weekend. I don’t know if this points the needle towards it being a directed action or a system error though.

Akuma

Hopefully this is just a glitch.

DP: I still have Platinum Elite currently (via Ritz card approved in July 2018, no $10k spend). I also have SPG/Bonvoy base card, SPG/Bonvoy Bus, and SPG/Bonvoy Luxury/Brilliant, and Amex Plat. Have stayed at roughly 8 Marriott properties since approved for Ritz card.

Adam

Marriott’s Website now official states former Ritz Cardholders only get Gold Elite Status. “Automatic Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status; earn Marriott Bonvoy Platinum Elite status when you spend $75,000 on purchases each account year” (found this on https://credit-cards.marriott.com/en-us/chase-us. -worst bait and switch I’ve seen in awhile!

TerryH

July 2018 new Ritz cardholder downgraded from Plat to Gold.